On May 28, 2009, at 11:19 AM, sparaig wrote:

--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
[...]
I'm glad you brought up shamatha too Willy since TM is a form of
shamatha. There's a big upsurge in interest in that form of
meditation as well, esp. since the guys and gals in the Shamatha
Project were regularly transcending for hours at a time, and emerging
refreshed.

The physiological correlates for "pure consciousness" during TM practice
 are reasonably well-documented.

Unfortunately Lawson, not many non-TM folks who are familiar which the merging field of contemplative science takes seriously the "pure consciousness" label. That's all it really is, an arbitrarily assigned label.

Since the research you have been citing for the Buddhist meditators
eschews alpha coherence and TM-style breath suspension (the afore-
mentioned correlates) as unworthy of consideration, I have to conclude
that there are other physiological correlates being found for transcending
that you and the researchers consider more important markers.

Neuroplastic changes to the brain, activation of areas of the brain associated with empathy and positive emotions. Slowing of aging at the cellular level is another important one--a claim long made by yogis, but only fairly recently actually shown to be taking place at the cellular level. Another very important area of research is in regards to the mid-prefrontal cortex which tends to shut down it's relational/resonance circuits in response to anything different (e.g. different people, people suffering terribly) whereas in experienced meditators, these areas actually 'light up' (link). Another interesting observation is muting of the startle reflex in advanced meditators, which of course, is one of the traditional observations for samadhi. Open-presence style meditation enables a non-reactive awareness of the stream of on-going experience and so therefore tends reduce "elaborative" thinking when conscious awareness selects a particular object. In advanced forms of calming/transcending meditation, one observation is that specific neural systems associated with conflict monitoring (e.g. the dorsal anterior cingulate cortex and dorsolateral prefrontal cortex), selective attention (e.g. the temporal-parietal junction, ventro-lateral prefrontal cortex, frontal eye fields and intraparietal sulcus) and sustaining attention (e.g. right frontal and parietal areas and the thalamus) are involved in inducing and maintaining the state of advanced transcending meditation. The neurophysiological changes would be significant improvements in the ability for sustained attention and selective attention. There is also EEG evidence for partial ‘deautomatization’ of the mental processes that shape and interpret perceptual stimuli. As these changes are engrained, one develops a true "effortless attention" where the props of meditation and monitoring (e.g. waiting for the mantra, returning to the mantra) are no longer needed. Simultaneous with the arising of this level of true effortless meditation, the need for sleep begins to be reduced. Another interesting one is increased immune function. Meditators show twice the amount of increased antibodies after being given a flu vaccine. So those are a few of the observations that come immediately to mind.



Do you know what those markers are? I can't find any published research
on the physiological correlates of transcending for hours at a time.


The Shamatha Project has only made some preliminary results public, but a number of the aforementioned observations do come from advanced contemplatives. The other results will come out over the next few years. It's also important to distinguish between the type of meditation being used: Focused Attention (e.g. TM, shamatha) or Open Presence style of meditation, as these are two major branches of meditation practice that have quite different correlates.

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