On May 28, 2009, at 6:25 PM, sparaig wrote:

>> TM activates the areas of the brain for mentation on a vague sound.
>> What's big deal about that?
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> Er, are you sure that that is all that is going on?

Well, of course there's the relaxation response, which according to a  
lecture by Benson last month, is induced by TM (and about 9 other  
meditation methods). You also have the shakti associated with the  
mantra and no shaktipat given--which will work differently depending  
on the person. (I needed two different shaktipat "jumps" till I could  
transcend for longer than 10 minutes continuously).

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>> Didn't they steal their thalamic gating theory straight out of Zen  
>> and
>> the Brain?
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> They may have gotten it from that book, or they may have come up
> with the idea independently.

I thought I heard you make the claim they got it from this book. Maybe  
that was someone else on FFL.

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> Does it matter?

It could; it may be the same phenomenon; it could be desperation,  
"what he said", "yeah, that's the ticket".

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