--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Premanand Paul Mason wrote: > > > > > > So the assumption that by transcending > > > one becomes incapable of error > > > of judgement is non-science > > > > Right. Assumption *is* non-science. But there's plenty > > of science available on which to base understandings. > > > > I'm thinking of the five or six studies the Nidiches > > published in peer-reviewed journals (I believe they > > were) demonstrating that TMers score higher on tests > > of moral development than did people who studied > > for the tests. > > > > > and we ought > > > to rely on better methods to > > > determine whether we are right or not. > > > > Better methods such as the studies cited above? > > Well, it seems to me that all that the study as > you described it would indicate is that TMers > do well at complying with societal standards > for morality. That is what any test of "moral > development" would have to be based upon, right? > > Societal standards for morality might not neces- > sarily have anything to do with genuine ethics. > Remember the things that were considered not only > moral but praiseworthy in the time of the Inqui- > sition? Torturing people to death to save their > souls was *completely* moral in that period. Was > it ethical? > > > > Else we become fundamentalists > > > who can do and say nothing that is out of key. > > > > Fairifield Life has done a pretty thorough job of > > investigating TMers' True Beliefs and exploding > > the fundamentalism in them. That's one reason > > I'm here. But we've yet to really lift a finger when > > it comes to examing the scientific studies. > > See above, if anyone feels capable of commenting > on the research mentioned. >
You're right about cultural norms, but perhaps there's a correlation between being able to stay within the norm (assuming no urgent need otherwise) and the physiological changes that TM brings about? It's also conceivable that SOME cultures are so anti-evolution that people who start growing towards enlightenment won't be able to live comfortably within that culture. For instance, I know of one guy who started TM with his family, but found that TM made MJ use so uncomfortable that he had to stop doing TM in order to enjoy time with his doper friends. He finally started TM again after suffering severe neurological damage from drug use (I assume something more potent than normal pot). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
