On Jul 8, 2005, at 4:45 PM, sparaig wrote:

> In other words, the TM technique, checking procedures, AND the
> experimental techniques to study the TM technique are quite
> consistent with the theory that MMY uses to explain TM, so even
> though you object to everything about TM, there's no contradiction or
> room for criticism from this perspective, no matter how much you wish
> there was.
>
> [yes, been getting enough sleep lately, and took an adderal on the
> weekend for the first time in months, so my thoughts are rather more
> coherent than usual, sorry if this makes you feel uncomfortable]

The only thing that makes me uncomfortable is that your post, as is 
often the case, doesn't really relate to what I was talking about. The 
original post was a comment on the style of self-sufficiency typical of 
yogis and those initiated into lineal meditation systems. 
Institutionalized "McMeditation" methods (in general) tend to foster 
reliance on the org itself and/or sometimes a key charismatic figure. 
As was mentioned previously on here, I am reminded of Robert Thurman's 
advice on gurus--if you see that an org is filled with old, long-term 
students 'run the other way as fast as you can'. It's not a good sign 
if they are not creating independence, all the while preaching 
"enlightenment". As he put it "there should be no old students".

I do not object to checking, if you have read some of my previous posts 
you should know that I feel checking is one of the best elements of the 
TM path. Ultimately though we should possess methods and skillful means 
for overcoming obstacles on our own (e.g. the recent conversation on 
the widespread problem with TM/TMSP and torpor).

Are you seriously on Adderal? Why the need for speed? Hasn't your 
ability to concentrate improved with your meditation practice?



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