I would like to thank Bill for encouraging me to stay. Thanks to people like him, I will. For a while, anyway.
--- In [email protected], "It's just a ride" <bill.hicks.all.a.r...@...> wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:40 PM, TurquoiseB [email protected] wrote: > > > > From my side, to be honest, I've been trying > > to provoke a little interest lately, in lieu > > of bailing from FFL altogether. > > . . . > > So, if you'd like, consider my "high numbers" > > a "last gasp," an attempt to see if there is > > any life left in the Olde FFL, from my obviously > > jaded perspective. If so, I'll stick around. If > > not, I'll bail. > > Don't you realize that people have left because they have > had enough of our resident Lord of the Flies? The one who > lords over all, thinks "pushing buttons" is a noble thing > instead of an ill mannered, nasty thing to do and is in > violation of the guidelines and rules of FFL? Pushing buttons *IS* a noble thing, in spiritual environments filled with people who wish to identify those "buttons" in themselves, identify the attachments they reveal, and work on elim- inating them. In such environments, the person who can help you to pinpoint your own hot button issues (and thus your samskaras and attachments) is your friend. Interestingly, in environments filled with folks I tend to call "spiritual slackers," such people are not only not considered friends, they are considered enemies. The reason is that the spiritual slackers are NOT working on trying to eliminate their attachments and their sam- skaras and their hot button issues. They *cling* to their hot button, as if they believed that the buttons -- and the overreactions they indulge in when they are pushed -- are "them." One might suggest, Bill, that your post -- coming as it does from someone I don't think I have ever interacted with at all -- is an example of the latter. > Try reading the guidelines and rules. Its as though they > were written just for you. Why Rick hasn't thrown you > out in light of his guidelines and rules is beyond me and > I'm sure many other FFL people. Thankfully for you > Rick is the owner/moderator in name only. The fact that Rick has not "thrown me out" the way you'd like him to might have something to do with him having been "thrown out" of the domes himself in Fairfield. It might have some- thing to do with the credo he posted for this online cyberestablishment on its home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> Bill, spend a little time reading that credo. Then ask yourself whether a forum that was *founded* to provide a rare place where people who have been involved with the TM movement can talk about that movement *without* fear of retalia- tion from the TM movement is likely to throw someone off that forum for being merely an asshole and pushing a few spiritual slackers' hot buttons *as* they talk about it. I mean, Rick didn't throw off one guy even after he mounted a cyberattack on FFL by posting porn to it and then writing to the Yahoo admin- istrators complaining about the porn *he* had posted, in an attempt to get the forum taken down. I *understand* that you are happier with the "TMO approach" to things you don't like -- BAN THEM. Like the TMO, you'd like to declare the things or the people you don't like anathema, declare them heretics or "off the program," and send them away. Cool, I guess, if that's what floats your boat. I don't think you're going to have much luck convincing Rick to ride in it, though. > People would stop lurking and become contributors to FFL > if you left. But they will lurk until assured they won't be > playing into your game of superiority and bullying, trying to > compensate for the obvious, that you have no other place to > go. Many go away for a few months, come back to check if > you're still here then go away again, hoping to wait you out. Bill, as I say I don't think I've ever interacted with you before. Other than a couple of posts of yours recently, I don't think I've ever even *seen* you post here. The only post of yours that the broken Yahoo search engine can find is from February: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/208504 <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/208504> In it -- interestingly -- you do nothing but repost a news article about a Texas judge who ordered a website to report anonymous flamers and trolls. Is trying to get people you don't like BANNED from Internet groups your *hobby*? :-) > I would appeal to your sense of shame in urging your to > leave FFL, but shame is something your type of person lacks. Bill, as I have said, I have *not* flamed you in the past. To be perfectly honest, I don't think I even noticed your existence until you went out of your way to flame *me* just now. But if it eases your mind and allows you to post without the fear of being "lorded over" by me, I will agree to go back to not noticing your existence in the future. I can assure you it will not be all that difficult.
