--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote: > > I would like to thank Bill for encouraging me to stay. > Thanks to people like him, I will. For a while, anyway. >
Turq, I did notice that too about Bill and did wonder where he came from. Hey Bill Hicks, you a regularly practicing meditator? Just wondering. Like, not just a someone who might have learned a meditation but quit or dropped practicing. That kind of `fallen away' status of course would be just a `non-meditator'. Are you a practicing meditator, of some kind? Just wondering. It helps a lot in figuring who to read when they post things here to FFL. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF > --- In [email protected], "It's just a ride" > <bill.hicks.all.a.ride@> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:40 PM, TurquoiseB [email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > From my side, to be honest, I've been trying > > > to provoke a little interest lately, in lieu > > > of bailing from FFL altogether. > > > . . . > > > So, if you'd like, consider my "high numbers" > > > a "last gasp," an attempt to see if there is > > > any life left in the Olde FFL, from my obviously > > > jaded perspective. If so, I'll stick around. If > > > not, I'll bail. > > > > Don't you realize that people have left because they have > > had enough of our resident Lord of the Flies? The one who > > lords over all, thinks "pushing buttons" is a noble thing > > instead of an ill mannered, nasty thing to do and is in > > violation of the guidelines and rules of FFL? > > Pushing buttons *IS* a noble thing, in spiritual > environments filled with people who wish to > identify those "buttons" in themselves, identify > the attachments they reveal, and work on elim- > inating them. In such environments, the person > who can help you to pinpoint your own hot > button issues (and thus your samskaras and > attachments) is your friend. > > Interestingly, in environments filled with folks > I tend to call "spiritual slackers," such people > are not only not considered friends, they are > considered enemies. The reason is that the > spiritual slackers are NOT working on trying > to eliminate their attachments and their sam- > skaras and their hot button issues. They *cling* > to their hot button, as if they believed that the > buttons -- and the overreactions they indulge > in when they are pushed -- are "them." > > One might suggest, Bill, that your post -- coming > as it does from someone I don't think I have ever > interacted with at all -- is an example of the latter. > > > Try reading the guidelines and rules. Its as though they > > were written just for you. Why Rick hasn't thrown you > > out in light of his guidelines and rules is beyond me and > > I'm sure many other FFL people. Thankfully for you > > Rick is the owner/moderator in name only. > > The fact that Rick has not "thrown me out" the > way you'd like him to might have something to > do with him having been "thrown out" of the > domes himself in Fairfield. It might have some- > thing to do with the credo he posted for this > online cyberestablishment on its home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> > > Bill, spend a little time reading that credo. Then > ask yourself whether a forum that was *founded* > to provide a rare place where people who have > been involved with the TM movement can talk > about that movement *without* fear of retalia- > tion from the TM movement is likely to throw > someone off that forum for being merely an > asshole and pushing a few spiritual slackers' > hot buttons *as* they talk about it. > > I mean, Rick didn't throw off one guy even after > he mounted a cyberattack on FFL by posting > porn to it and then writing to the Yahoo admin- > istrators complaining about the porn *he* had > posted, in an attempt to get the forum taken down. > > I *understand* that you are happier with the "TMO > approach" to things you don't like -- BAN THEM. > Like the TMO, you'd like to declare the things or > the people you don't like anathema, declare them > heretics or "off the program," and send them away. > > Cool, I guess, if that's what floats your boat. I don't > think you're going to have much luck convincing > Rick to ride in it, though. > > > People would stop lurking and become contributors to FFL > > if you left. But they will lurk until assured they won't be > > playing into your game of superiority and bullying, trying to > > compensate for the obvious, that you have no other place to > > go. Many go away for a few months, come back to check if > > you're still here then go away again, hoping to wait you out. > > Bill, as I say I don't think I've ever interacted with > you before. Other than a couple of posts of yours > recently, I don't think I've ever even *seen* you > post here. The only post of yours that the broken > Yahoo search engine can find is from February: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/208504 > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/208504> > > In it -- interestingly -- you do nothing but repost > a news article about a Texas judge who ordered > a website to report anonymous flamers and trolls. > Is trying to get people you don't like BANNED > from Internet groups your *hobby*? :-) > > > I would appeal to your sense of shame in urging your to > > leave FFL, but shame is something your type of person lacks. > > Bill, as I have said, I have *not* flamed you in > the past. To be perfectly honest, I don't think > I even noticed your existence until you went > out of your way to flame *me* just now. > > But if it eases your mind and allows you to post > without the fear of being "lorded over" by me, > I will agree to go back to not noticing your > existence in the future. I can assure you it > will not be all that difficult. >
