Hey, Turquoise

You sound to be a very analytical type of person.  We can ask the 
same question about you.  What's your stake in the subject of TM and 
MMY?  Are you finding your bliss in your approach?  If you are, then 
it's doubtful that it will last.  You'll only be whistling dixie...

Regards,

John R.



--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > Given the chaos of the recent incident in London, MMY's decision 
to 
> > leave the UK is prophetic and validates his reputation as a 
modern 
> > day Seer.
> 
> Lawson, just to follow up on my point earlier this
> morning, *this* is why so much of the TM research
> is suspect, and deservedly so.  Just as fairly 
> random events are manipulated by True Believers to
> "validate" the way they view Maharishi and his
> "seeing,", some of the science is used for the 
> same purpose.
> 
> In the case of the claim that the above statement
> was part of, I suspect you'd agree with me that 
> the real intent is not even to "validate" Maharishi.
> It's to "validate" the *faith* that John R. has in
> him.  His post is like saying, "See?!  I wasn't 
> crazy to believe in him all these years after all.  
> This *proves* that he was right, and therefore that 
> *I* was right to believe in him."
> 
> My suspicion is that this same scenario plays out
> in far too much of the TM-related research.  Some
> of it, as you've pointed out, is tight.  But a lot
> of it isn't, and for this same reason.  There is 
> too much *self-validation* going on for the 
> researchers themselves to allow for any true 
> objectivity.  The bottom line for research done by 
> TMers who have committed themselves to Maharishi 
> and the TM movement for years is that if they DON'T 
> find positive results, it invalidates their OWN 
> lives and challenges their OWN faith.  So what are 
> they likely to find?
> 
> Plus, there's the darshan factor.  Other than being
> rich, how do you get into a room with Maharishi 
> these days and get a personal pat on the back from
> him?  Duh.  You do a research project that "proves"
> that TM is a Good Thing or that the ME is real.
> 
> In terms of biasing the results of any study, this
> is in the same ballpark as a drug company offering
> researchers a cash bonus if the research proves
> their new drug valuable, and no bonus if it does
> not.  This has actually happened with drug studies.
> My point is that I think it's happened subtly with
> some of the TM-related studies as well.
> 
> Unc




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