--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have that book of his. Yes, it is basically TM
> without the endless mantra repetition and no mantra.
TM is which? "endless mantra repetition" or "no mantra" or what?
Not sure what you were trying to say here...
> One uses a word to bring one's attention back to the
> intention of Divine communion.
>
> --- Geoff Gilpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I remember his visit very clearly. He was an
> > imposing fellow--very tall with
> > long robes that billowed around him in the Iowa
> > wind. You could see him
> > coming for blocks away.
> >
> > I never knew until now that the "Dom Thomas" who
> > visited MIU was Thomas
> > Keating. A few years ago, a friend gave me a
> > pamphlet by Keating with
> > instructions for performing "centering prayer." When
> > I read them I was
> > immediately struck by the similarity to TM. ("When
> > you become aware of
> > thoughts, return ever-so-gently to the sacred word."
> > "The principal effects
> > of centering prayer are experienced in daily life,
> > not in the period of
> > centering prayer itself.")
> >
> > I'm not finding it online now, but I recall that the
> > instructions for
> > centering prayer mentioned that the "sacred word" is
> > NOT something you
> > purchase or get from an authority figure. I remember
> > thinking at the time
> > that the person who came up with centering prayer
> > was obviously trying to
> > adapt TM for the public domain. Now we know the rest
> > of the story.
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Peter Sutphen
> > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 6:47 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion & Ethics
> > NewsWeekly . FEATURE .
> > Transcendental Meditation . July 8, 2005 | PBS
> >
> >
> > Wasn't it in '75? Father Thomas Keating. A very cool
> > dude indeed. He has written quite a number of good
> > books. He saw both the benefits of TM opening an
> > interior spiritual life for people and the
> > unfortunate
> > cult aspects that can come out of the social
> > dynamics
> > of a meditating group. A very balanced guy. I
> > remember
> > he stayed in our Frat, 152, and we had to be very
> > quiet for him because he went to bed at 8:00pm!
> >
> > --- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I remember back in 1976, the Abbott of the
> > Trappist
> > > Monestary in
> > > Massechesets, visited what was MIU then, and
> > offered
> > > some observations.
> > > He had been the Abbott there since 1945, and
> > seemed
> > > quite serene and
> > > balanced. He said that he had had deeper
> > experiences
> > > in prayer by
> > > using TM first, to get to a deeper state, and then
> > > pray from that
> > > deepeer state. He did not see any problem with
> > > meditating and being a
> > > Catholic, and the Abbott of the Monestary.
> > > He went on to say that some of the deeper, more
> > > escoteric teachings of
> > > the church, had been removed during the
> > reformation,
> > > as the leaders of
> > > the church at that time felt threatened by people
> > > flocking to other
> > > alternative religions, and so, the watering down,
> > > dogmatic process,
> > > began, and that is what we have today.
> > > Some people need that kind of dogma in their life;
> > > you seem the same
> > > kind of thing in the military. No questioning, and
> > > the high value of
> > > loyalty at all costs.
> > > Also, it is well documented the many holocausts
> > that
> > > have been created
> > > in the name of religion, and the attitude that
> > "our
> > > god is better,
> > > than yours.
> > > Also, the idea that Jesus is some kind of a god
> > > misses the whole point
> > > of his life.
> > > Jesus was foremost a teacher, but most
> > > interpretations, starting with
> > > tthe Romans, tries to caste him in the role of God
> > > or Son of God, like
> > > the Roman concept of Caesar, who also was
> > condidered
> > > a god.
> > > In the middle ages the church persuted people for
> > > healing powers, and
> > > the like, and many thousands were burned at the
> > > stake.
> > > The church has been the cause of many insanities.
> > > So, I could go on and on, but that's all for
> > now...
> > > good nite to all.
> > >
> > > In [email protected], Rick Archer
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
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