Thanks. nice account.
--- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, someone else had gone to Kalachakra in Toronto. > > Well, I don't know specifically. I felt drawn to go to basically support the Dalai Lama and just to make a connection, which I did. I wanted to go just so I could focus on meditating and taking long baths and hanging out with spiritual people. Which I did. I also wanted to go to make a connection with Shambalah and took my wife Erin so that we could make the connection together. Which we did. And also as a tantric of some other anutara or high Tibetan empowerments I wanted her the have the abhishekas so that I could talk to her without breaking samayas, and so that was good. > > The lobby had these tsampas which they served with Sirachi and I ate it in the morning at about eight o clock but thanks to Pepcid I didn't have any upset. That was good. > > I didn't really have any portentious dreams as I did have once for the Nyingthig Yabshi. But I did feel a deep cleansing beyond the usual effects that I get from say TSR or CCP. I feel that the spacious awareness has a sort of drive to it when it is established in the way it was by the master doing his self initiation and enlivenment. I guess that since the initiations are really for all the various aspects of the personality that they did in fact clear out some more relative obscurations of my nature, which is something that TM lacks. That is, TM doesn't push and shove one enough to get behind the mental ears and the spiritual butt crack. > > I also really liked the Dalai Lama and that only deepened, and I appreciated his candor, hard work, and honest business dealings. And I really liked his translator Thubten Nyingpo, who was impeccable. > > Then I came back to New orleans and the very next day I got a job working grill on Bourbon St at St. Peter. Right near Pat O Briens. It was like, samaya be fucked. There was no way to remain conditioned from the course and all the coherence went out the window literally since we had a window in the kitchen onto Bourbon St. > > So you ask if I got something out of it. I don't know except that I made the connection, and the connection lasts because I interact quite a bit with the International Kalachakra Network. I find it inspiring. I find the Shambalah myth, since it's established by the most subtle of yogis, the Tibetans, to have some reality beyond the Global Government of World Peace, or the Ascended Channeled Seven Ray Intergalactic Confederation, and those other fringe insanity collectives. I mean, the Tibetans and the others who forged the Shambalah myth did it first, and I am happy to be a card carrying member of that. > > Beyond that, the Vimalaprabha, translation by Gavin Kilty, is an intense and exceptional work of what is known as clear explanation tantra, which is to say that it is fully explained and not veiled in twilight language or other symbolism and so as such should be studied by any serious student of tantra. That said, one isn't supposed to study tantras without the necessary permissions and so having the permissions allows one to not only study it but to engage in the practice, though it should be said that Kalachakra mantra accumulation is usually a preliminary to any actual Kalachakra mandala practice beside the simple bliss or mind mandala. > > But you want to know if it had a real effect upon me and my real answer is this. How can anything have an effect upon me when water can't wet and fire can't burn me. When air can't blow and earth can't dirty me. When I am like space, free of limitation. What then can limit me, and what can set me free? > > I went to Kalachakra not to get something out of it but to give something to it. To lend my meditation into the stream of awareness of those others present who might benefit from my ability to sink into samadhi forged from 25 years of TM to where I don't even have to close my eyes any longer, to where the notion of transcendece or not transcendence is moot. That is, I went to give and support, and I went as a Bodhisattva, not to become one. > > It was still good to clarify my position through the actions, to have my position clarified through the abhishekas and to get a 400 year jump on probably the fifteen or twenty or thirty or so incarnations between now and Armegeddom Kalachakra 2424. One is told to not reify (do you know that word - reify) circumstances so as to think that the world is literally Kalachakra mandala. That's the word to the outer school anyway. > > However Kalachakra was devised to be a Theory of Everything and so as such, like the expansive Vedas it presupposed an entire world view and system for astrology (Based in Jyotish) placement, medicine, physical, mental, and meridien work and mantra practice and well, everything, so we can imply that the people who originally made the Shambala Blueprint manifest for the world did have such intentions to create that configuration eventually, reification of conceptuality within the dharmata's expanse, or not. > > Sometimes I fantacize that Maharishi creates a new Ayodhya or something and then 200 years from now some people found a small village called Shambala, and then they take names of the famous Hindu deities, and then eventually about year 2424 guess what Kalki Vishnuyashas is born somewhere near Kashmere or Dehra Dun. > > But that's obviously a fantasy and a way fo me to reify my TM connection to make Maharishi's nutty global government sensible in a way that only whacked out New Agers like myself could possibly acheive. (I am second genertion Los Angeleno on both parent's sides.) > > Nah, I didn't really get anything from it. Not yet. But I like the Kalachakra people. They haven't asked me to leave the group or sit down. So there's a connection there. They ain't pussies. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: anonymousff > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:07 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kalachakra > > > --- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 18 > > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:20:04 -0000 > > From: anonymousff > > Subject: Re: Fw: [ikn-initiates] Kalachakra2005 DC > > > > Llundrub, > > > > What effects, insights or attainments etc did you gain from > attending the Kalachakra empowerment? > > > > > > -------Didn't you go as well to Toronto? Or who was that here? > > No you are confusing me with the guy in the viewing line who sneezed > hard right in front of the Sand Mandala. Sort of like Woodie Allen in > the cocaine scene in Annie Hall. > > But its a serious and respectful question: > > > What effects, insights or attainments etc did you gain from > attending the Kalachakra empowerment? > > I accidently attended a Kalachakra given by HHDL in Sarnath. I > stumbled into Benares the day it began, oblivious to its commencement. > When i heard about it, I quickly scooted over to Sarnath and sat for > about a week in a large field with about 500,000 Tibetians, Nepalesse, > etc who had come for the event. All the proceedings went on in > tibetian -- with no translation. I just absorbed the sounds and > blessings. And on the last day, I did view the sand mandala, after > being literally locked for hours in a sea of human bodies rolling this > way and that, which somehow emerged into a viewing line. > If anyone stumbled, many could have been crushed. It was a real > surrender moment (well 5 hours). > > I still have little idea what it was about, though clearly quite > special and extensive. It felt good. > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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