--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 7/12/05 12:19 PM, tomandcindytraynor at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> > TurquoiseB writes:
> >  What do people think?  I'm certainly interested to
> >  Hear  if such teachings *are* available, or even
> >  Theoretically  available in the materials left to the "posterity"
> >  Of  the TM movement.
> > Unc
> > Tom T writes:
> > We currently have a weekly gathering of about 25 to 35 going on here
> > in FF in which Rick Archer is a regular. The common thread is, OK this
> > is how the A or E experience went down for me and is being lived day
> > to day, and now What's next? 

Actually the 'Ladies' are very much teaching spiritual practice to
this.  They kind of take up where MMY had left us off a few years ago.
 Ammachi with her AIM techniques and Karunamayi inciting people on
with their discipline to keep after it with spiritual practice of
meditations.  What they teach towards is really very practical for
advancement of what many have gotten from years of practice of TM and
TM-sidhis.  Theirs is advanced patanjali for the TM seeker. Brahma=vidya

Ammachi to 'embodiments of divine souls', Karunamayi to embodiments of
'souls immortal', to 'divinize' their experience.

Karunamayi gave several Atman-vidya discourses recently going very
directly and much in to 'what is next'.  She kept hammering that 'the
human birth is a great boon of God to realize supreme consciousness
within us'.  Is to experience the divine.  In different ways she urged
discipline in practice.  That it 'requires going deep and to be taken
seriously'.  That even the enlightened meditate, that even the Rishi's
of old meditated. She had some great stories about this.  

She emplored that people do design life to be divinizing, enhancing
the power inside... to pursue practice w/ awareness where the darkness
of ignorance is dispelled and conquers egoism and selfishness of the
mind w/ supreme Being.  That the world needs this.  Even for the
enlightened the spiritual practice is to close the eyes to acquire
that knowledge of self realization of the Divine Consciousness.    

At one different point Karunamayi observed and reflected that there is
a spiritual arrogance now among some old meditators, that some
long-time meditators have a 'false pride of a spiritual immaturity'. 
  she encouraged and incited that folks do use their wisdom and have a
faith in sadhana.  She was saying that it is not enough to just have
some witness or self, but to go on with your practice to that which is
divine within.  To 'divinize' life in the experience and realization
of the supreme within.  

Though not directly challenging, it was a an effective commentary of
all this 'waking down' stuff which has become so popular recently. 
Evidently there is more and it involves going for it to find.

'Like the holy rishi's of old, god comes periodically to remind humans
of the boon they do have.  These ladies are that.  They come out of
greater compassion.  Their's is of grace a spiritual teaching that a
human life can be 'blessed and freed in sadhana of meditation; that
the practice is not mechanical but also the will of God, the shakti we
meditate upon, that vital force.  Flowing with compassion they do come
to us.'

It is pretty obvious if you sit, listen and do it.

-Doug      

  

 




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