--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <yifux...@...> wrote: > > Stenger has a broad definition of "matter" (below) that may include (for > example); additional dimensions (presently unseen) as required by superstring > theory; but supposedly testable at some time in the future. Stenger doesn't > discount the possibibility of such entities existing but nevertheless, such > "other" dimensions would still be material according to him, but "God" would > not be material unless testable. Psychic phenomena are "out" since the > claimants have failed to offer proof of existence.
I agree with him on this. But god would have to be testable as he would have to exist within the universe no matter what level he occupies even if it's way beyond current comprehension. Personally I lump god in with psychic phenomena as a fantasy until someone proves otherwise, the next question being: how much longer are people going to keep believing when the available space for him gets smaller and smaller. It's all wishful thinking, we come pre-programmed to create an explanation of the "outer" world and all of them have fallen by the wayside in light of scientific discovery. (in addition to his claim that Hagelin's flipped SU(5) hypothesis was refused by experimental evidence). As far as I'm aware (I haven't read the book yet) it was the original SU5 theory that was disproved and not the one JH helped to write. I don't understand the difference between the two but they spent 20 years testing the first with underground proton detectors to no avail. > "Pure Consciousness" on the "Stenger planet" plays no apparent role in the > Origin of Physical Law and he seems to have a poor understanding of mysticism > altogher. (he feels that it's a form of solipsism). Seems fair enough as it's invented inside the mind, unless there is any evidence of inner revelation having a parallel in practical physics? Nope, nothing springs to mind. Can't wait to read the book though.