--- In [email protected], "PaliGap" <compost...@...> wrote:
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> I don't think the Turing test helps. Barry may look 
> and act in a way that is indistinguishable from a 
> regular human being - but the question of whether 
> there IS such a thing as "being Barry" is a fact about 
> the world (either true or false) regardless of whether 
> or not anyone can possibly tell.

This is often referred to as the 'zombie' problem. I've just read a book by 
Susan Blackmore called 'Conversations on Consciousness' (just google it) in 
which Blackmore interviews a whole bunch of top consciousness researchers. She 
asks all of them if they think zombies could exist - i.e. she asks if there 
were a robot that could behave indistinguishably from a person do they think 
the robot would necessarily be conscious, or would there be "nothing that it 
was like to be it".

The interviewees give a fascinating range of answers to this question (+ other 
ones). I'd strongly recommend the book.

Geoff

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