--- In [email protected], off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > Liberal = American.
> > 
> > OK, but that's not what the founding fathers were thinking when 
they 
> > created the Electoral College, and decided to keep the definition 
of 
> > slaves as property...>>>
> 
> 
> @$#! the founding fathers.

Yeah they had some strange ideas, the point being that the desire to 
acquire power and then hold onto it, despite its contradiction to 
democratic ideals, has been around since this country was founded. So 
many, many of us may hold a liberal perspective, but there are also 
the others.




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