--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Has anybody done any DNA studies? Something sticks > > in my mind having to do with DNA and Native Americans, > > but I can't remember what. > > > > Wait. Tibetans?? How would they have acquired the > > necessary sailing skills? Did they have a > > tradition of exploration? Would they have been > > monkish types, or merchant types? > > Not sure how many DNA studies have been done; below is an > interesting (if lengthy) overview on the subject as a whole (though > I see no mention of Tibet here). As to the Tibetan links with the > Navajo and Apache, I am unable ATM to find the densely-argued > internet papers mentioned earlier. It would appear at least some of > them were priestly types, given the numerous correspondences in > cosmology and sand painting, as well as sacred dances, costumes, > and so on. Again, don't know about DNA, but physical similarities > are stunning. Some scholars agree there are definite links between > Sino-Tibetan and Athabascan (Navajo-Apache) languages; others > remain skeptical.
Any idea why the Tibetans would have been into long journeys like that? Some flavors of monks do so in hope of finding new opportunities to proselytize, but I shouldn't think that would be the motivation of Tibetan monks, or would it? > http://www.palden.co.uk/hhn/essays/hhn-25.html > Essays on geopolitics > history and the future > Palden Jenkins > 25. The Columbus myth Many thanks. Fascinating article. A few comments: <snip> > teacher. The teacher sent it to the British Museum for > identification, and the reply returned that it was at least 5,000 > years old and derived from specific rock deposits in Minnesota. Man, that's a mind-boggler! Muslim coins in Massachusetts, e.g., is startling enough, but to find it going the other way... Wow. <snip> > 56 days by dugout canoe. There are also carvings at La Venta and > Monte Alban in Mexico and Guatemala which show bearded Caucasian- > type people. I helped edit a book not long ago claiming these types of carvings were of Atlantean refugees. But Atlantis is a whole 'nother can of worms. On the other hand, that all these other apparently unlikely groups visited America tends to make one think there's all *kinds* of stuff we don't know about along those lines. > Chinese visiting America in more recent times have reported the > ability to communicate with Sioux, Apache, Bolivian Quecha and some > Peruvian peoples. That's *another* mind-blower. Boy, I'd like to hear more about how this transpired. Similar words is one thing, but actual *communication* is amazing. > Welsh remains have been identified in Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee > and Missouri. Welsh-speaking natives were noted by early settlers > in New Jersey and the Carolinas Welsh-speaking *Indians*?? <snip> > Since the prevailing ideology is that Columbus `discovered' > America, and since this ideology is important > to the notion of white Anglo-Saxon Protestant supremacy in USA (But Columbus was Catholic, no?) <snip> > These were historically very important choices. The story of the > Americas would have been very different if the white settlers and > conquistadors had instead elected to fraternise, trade and > cooperate with the indigenous Americans. Sounds like superb material for an alternative- history novel set in the present, based on the cooperation choice back then. > However, if native peoples > were to be fully recognised for their rights and prerogatives, and > if an adjustment were made on a fair and accommodating basis, a > massive redistribution of land and resources would have to take > place, undermining the very basis on which modern American life > stands. Instead it's being undermined in other ways because one of the few ways Native American tribes can make any money is to run casinos for and sell tax-free cigarettes to white folks. All very thought-provoking, Rory; thanks again. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
