This is quite incoherent.

I tried to read about 3 or 4 paragraphs and just got confused.  Perhaps one has 
to be a part of this organisation to understand the language being used here.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "one.li...@..." <one.li...@...> wrote:
>
> An Indian Renunciate's story of life close to Ammachi in Amritapuri
> 
> I met Mata Amritanandamayi, when I was 14 and joined the organization at
> around 20. I spent a good amount of my prime years there. Regarding
> the question, "What was your relationship to Amma"? I used to
> think of her as my own mother, guru and god. And "How close to the inner
> circle were you?" I guess I was pretty close to her but not able to
> quantify it. I became involved with the ashram at a very young age. But the 
> Period 1999-2001 was a major contributor. We saw, many of the seniors 
> leaving, Swami Advaithamritha (Lakshman), Swami Amrithamayananda, Swamini 
> Amrithaprana, Bri.Ambamritha (Manju) And many others as well. Some of them 
> were very close to me. Swami Amritaswarupananda was also about to leave and 
> was on anti-depressants in those days.. But was sent away for a while. It was 
> like the whole thing falling apart. It was very painful for a person inside 
> to see the entire creamy layer, moving out. It also made me think a lot! I 
> have heard directly from Amritanandamyi herself, that Amrithaprana would 
> attain self realization by serving me, and lot off stuff like that. Ammachi 
> became more reliant on her immediate family members during that phase, it 
> also helped me see the human vulnerabilities of insecurity gripping her. I 
> confronted or rather approached her with my confusions on the meaning and 
> purpose of this kind of life. She started telling, don't think too much, do 
> your Nishkama sevanam (selfless work) and let me know openly all your 
> problems. Since then, it was kind of half hearted. PLEASE UNDERSTAND, it is 
> not just a few incidents, it is the whole experience of being there and 
> seeing and observing her and try to HANG ON to the faith in her. She plays 
> with our emotions by giving lot of attention and care at times and then 
> totally ignoring you for months. 
> 
> So the point is the process of losing faith is like developing cracks
> on a stone (being thrashed :-) ) over time, it was gradual for me.
> 
> Just to give a glimpse of the other face of her, during my last few
> months. I had a health issue and had to go to AIMS and we were
> supposed to seek her permission. She was emphatic, in replying that "I don't
> know anything about u" and in a total indifferent tone. To hear it from a
> person, whom you TRUST as mother, guru and god at a very stressful
> time in your life is not easy. As you don't have anyone else to hold on to.
> There is so much to go on. May be some other time, as reliving those
> experience by narrating it is also painful at times. It just makes me
> feel betrayed and it hurts beyond words and I want to move on. 
> All of her immediate family members have become very rich with no clear and 
> justifiable source of income to substantiate. No one dares to speak
> anything against her family members inside the ashram.
> I know lot of the insiders are contemplating about coming out
> now, but don't have the confidence - thinking about, being able to get
> a job, acceptance of the society etc. Needless to say, transition is
> painful.
> 
> I came out and I am very happy. My friends, family and some of my
> friends (former devotees) also helped me thru it.
> 
> I shall try to articulate my perspective and understanding on some of
> these questions based on my experience there. I am also trying to be
> as much as objective and factual as possible.
> 
> It is very different and it would be very difficult to get an exposure
> on her private face. I would like to put it this way. A person is
> coming to see her in darshan, with his/her problem/question. She
> would be (seemingly?) extremely compassionate, loving and
> understanding towards the person to instill and nurture faith in Her
> (especially if she sees the person important or necessary for the
> organization (corporate. She would give lot of attention to your
> issues.) She is amazingly intelligent, smart and also patiently
> willing to go to that extra mile to make that happen. She is really
> very good at that.
> 
> Once that happens, you are opening up yourself to a wonder world of
> faith (devotee), devotion and a sense of sublime surrender being
> generated from a false sense of security with your relation to the
> DIVINE, then more or less your sense of rationalization stops. You
> start attributing some good happenings or nice coincidences in your
> life as HER grace and some unfortunate incidents as wake up calls for
> not being able to follow her teachings. The ideals of selfless
> service would be awe-inspiring.
> 
> Once you become blind by faith, you will find yourself relying more
> and more on the feeling of devotion with her. With your intellect
> being open to her teachings (spiritual?) you tend to look at life and
> the world in a specific way and tend to become more and more comfortable
> and moving in the "devotee" circle.
> 
> Don't think that, the whole experience and journey is very depressing
> or confusing. It is not; it gives you a real "high" especially in the
> beginning. This is rather a generic process of becoming an insider.
> Of course there exist many possible permutations and combinations to
> it. The person becomes accustomed with the new life and moves on.
> Slowly, over the years and many experiences make them feel and think
> that this life is worthless and they decide to move out .It may not happen
> to every one though, many are confused. Over the years, the number of
> people moving out is increasing is for sure.
> 
> Now comes the interesting part, once you tend to make a step in that
> direction of moving out. You would be persuaded initially in a loving
> and caring way - not to do so. But it is also directly proportional
> to your level of commitment and devotion and devotion towards her.
> Once she senses that you have LOST FAITH or rather have started
> losing faith in HER. You could potentially see the ruthless and
> the "other" face of her. Your character assassination will follow, so
> that your "voice/reason" would not have any value there. Mostly she
> would make your life very, very difficult inside the ashram in a very 
> diplomatic way.
> 
> The devotees or disciples do feel scared to come out primarily, their
> entire world was revolving around HER and HER organization which is
> considered divine and to emotionally come out of it and feel the
> confidence to live outside in the world is not easy for a person who
> practiced "Blind Faith and spirituality". Rather, it is a shock to
> realize the loss of faith. It is altogether a different topic to
> discuss. But the process would be "Enlightening".
> 
> The organization never entertains interaction between people inside the 
> ashram, who are renunciates with the people who have LOST FAITH as this would 
> be the people who can potentially encourage or confuse the people inside who 
> are considering leaving.
> 
> Having said that, I would like to highlight one most important point,
> she has lot of talents and skills - she could talk to a scientist and
> an artist, a business man and a "common man" with equal ease and
> impress upon them with her practical wisdom. She is very good in
> making good calculated judgments may be even farsighted. She is
> highly autocratic but able to conceal it with diplomacy. But it is
> definitely human than divine. But for people (devotees) blind with
> faith it is divine. I am neither a devotee nor an admirer (anymore), but
> don't undermine her raw human talent and skills that she is able to
> use to build her corporate empire in the "Faith" industry. It is very
> very important to acknowledge that aspect of her to confront with the
> much talked about pseudo Divine persona.
> 
> I am not sure, whether it made any sense from the reader's
> perspective - but it has more to it. It is only a tip of an iceberg.
> 
> When the ashram started Amrita TV under the banner of the AEPL (Amrita
> Enterprises Pvt Ltd), the money to jump start the program was pooled
> from the Pharmacy at AIMS. More over, they get large volumes of
> medicines from Pharmaceutical companies as free samples (in the name
> of charity) and sell it to the public through the pharmacy. Think
> about it, an entertainment industry supported by the money from the
> poor and under privileged. It does not make sense.
> 
> Pinarayi Viajayan is the state secretary and her daughter
> were given a free admission (worth 12500$) to Amrita Engineering college. 
> Since then no one has uttered a word or protest against the illegal - 
> management fee collected by Amrita educational institutions. 
> E.P Maharaja given free/highly subsidized rate for heart surgery at AIMS 
> hospital. Remember Kerala is currently governed by communist party. These are 
> not the poor and needy. Grand daughter of ex- congress minister -
> Balakrishna Pillai given free medical admission at AIMS (100000$).
> This was when congress in power.
> 
> I had the feeling of not wanting to be connected to the organization through 
> the initial period of "coming out" and I really didn't want to think or 
> associate with the Hugging Saint or her organization anymore. The sense of 
> betrayal and the sense of loss, coupled with the pressure to get back to Life 
> was traumatic. Especially the militant, cult mind set of the ashram 
> organization under her direction tend to make it even worse.
>


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