--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand" <premanandp...@...> wrote: > > Is it not possible for you to mix and match the strengths of the various > techniques, e.g. take it easy whilst using willpower, letting go of > discursive thought gradually, gently?
They are two distinct different approaches, they not the same, not at all. One, Concentration or Hong Sau uses effort and control, as you progress your concentration becomes more intense, the objective of raising the prana up through the spine to the Ajna Chakra, is accomplished, it takes years and years to accomplish this. TM indirectly controls the body by influencing the mind and brings about what Swami Yogananda calls 'Conscious Sleep' but this is just the first state of meditation, if you're interested further read his book entitled "The Science of Religion" page 51 under "The Meditational Method" and "The Scientific Method or Yoga", I think he describes TM very well in the meditational method. Using Kriya Yoga one learns to consciously die......and return, as you may already know. > If and when meditation is taught outside of a religious context, without the > use of a puja or magic prayers, I suspect that science will show that it is > not only easy and effective, but will concern itself with why it had been > overlooked for so long. And it will probably blame those who described > meditation as difficult and those who asserted it took many years to learn > and practise. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG" <wgm4u@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand" <premanandpaul@> wrote: > > > > > > "TM is a much more passive process, but simpler for most people. > > > Concentration, once mastered, is more controllable using the WILL......" > > > > > > 'Simpler'? I'm not so sure about that. TM relies on the fairly finely > > > balanced use of mantra repetition, which masquerades as simple but is > > > actually otherwise. I wonder how many who say that concentration of > > > willpower is more difficult than TM have actually tried it? > > > > > > I think we tend to parrot ideas without really doing any ammount of > > > homework. Actually, it was a feature of Maharishi's modus operandus, to > > > find out about 'rival' systems of meditation, but unfortunately he always > > > made them out to be either ineffectual or too difficult. Now, given the > > > teaching, I suspect that a great many practitioners of TM would have > > > found some of those 'difficult' techniques quite a lot easier than they > > > imagined. > > > > I practiced Hong Sau for almost a year, and believe me, it's more > > difficult, but then it's a completely different approach. Using > > Concentration, the object is to withdraw the prana to the point between the > > eyebrows, once having accomplished that, the soul or consciousness is free > > from the bodily cage as they say. > > > > TM is almost always accompanied with rest, not so all the time with Hong > > Sau or Concentration, it takes time to master it, it's something you have > > to practice in order to accomplish. TM is almost automatic but the results > > are unpredictable. > > > > Once the technique of Concentration is Mastered you can go into Samadhi, at > > will, anytime. Personally I feel TM is more suited for me, it's easier, the > > only problem is falling asleep frequently.......... > > >
