I said my piece; he said his. What's wrong with that? It seems very
fair to me. 
I'm allowing him the last word. 

--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Why don't you respond to mark's points? You engage in
> a debate and then bailout when someone responds
> rationally to your posts pointing oput their
> short-comings? You're not interested in discussing
> this, you just take your TB shit and leave. What a
> pussy!
> 
> --- feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > That's a spirited response but I stand by my points
> > as written. 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected],
> > "markmeredith2002" <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: feste37 
> > > > To: [email protected] 
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 9:53 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email from an old
> > friend
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > This is interesting. It seems that despite his
> > protests that he
> > > > means the 
> > > > movement no ill, Rick Archer does in fact work
> > behind the scenes
> > to 
> > > > undermine the TM organization. 
> > > 
> > > What exactly is "behind the scenes" here???
> > > 
> > > The article in question was obviously
> > > > biased, 
> > > > since it quoted two dissaffected ex-TMers
> > (Archer and Petrick) but
> > > > did not 
> > > > bother to seek out anyone who is happy with the
> > TMO, relying
> > instead
> > > > on 
> > > > official spokesmen. 
> > > 
> > > First, it wasn't an article, it was an opinion
> > piece on the
> > editorial
> > > page, written not by Rick Archer but by Erik
> > Gable, who works for
> > the
> > > Fairfield Ledger and has visited the Amma event
> > for the past 2 yrs.
> >  
> > > 
> > > Gable quotes both Pierson and Wallace which
> > explains the MUM policy
> > > quite thoroughly.  Does "biased" mean anything
> > critical of the TMO??
> > > 
> > > And Amma's organization was held up as an ideal
> > > > and 
> > > > used to trash the TMO. (In fact, these two
> > organizations have very
> > > > different 
> > > > purposes in the world and should not be
> > compared.) 
> > > 
> > > "Trashed"??  Maybe there's a good and cosmic for
> > what the TMO does,
> > > but for an average midwestern citizen, like Gable,
> > to be spiritually
> > > turned off by the local tmo's fundraising
> > obsession and guys in
> > white
> > > robes and golden crowns driving around fairfield
> > in stretch limos
> > > should be understandable.  The Amma org. is surely
> > not ideal either,
> > > but the contrast is stark in this regard.  Maybe
> > you expect every
> > > single published word on the TMO to sound like a
> > TMO press release??
> > > 
> > > > I think it is fine if people want to promote
> > their own spiritual
> > > > path, but Rick's 
> > > > decision to do so by encouraging a reporter to
> > present another
> > > > spiritual 
> > > > organization in a bad light is, shall we say,
> > regrettable. It
> > reminds
> > > > me of the 
> > > > Christian fundamentalists. They can't just say
> > what they believe;
> > > > they have to 
> > > > attack what others  believe as well. 
> > > 
> > > Well maybe Gable will respond here to how the
> > editorial came about,
> > > but I think the viewpoints expressed were his not
> > Rick Archer's.
> > > 
> > > Regarding fundmentalists, it's the TMO that kicks
> > people out for
> > even
> > > visiting other teachers and that goes ballistic
> > and views as
> > > "negativity" when anyone suggests reasons for its
> > slump for the past
> > > 20 yrs (slump other than fundraising that is).
> > 
> > 
> > 
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