--- In [email protected], "Joe" <geezerfr...@...> wrote: > > > Judy get off her high horse??? Never going to happen Curtis my man. But I > admire your continued effort to have discourse with her being WAAY up there > and you being a lowly blues singer and all...
I had a good run with this topic so I really can't complain. Too bad I can't prove that Barry wrote the Bible! > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > <snip> > > > > If you have decided that some scriptures are not the holy > > > > word of God, and therefore, the ideas in that book should > > > > be treated like any other human ideas, then you share my > > > > exact feelings about the Hindu scriptures. People can > > > > and do believe what they like. But if you don't believe > > > > every religion's scriptures and practice every direct > > > > command from their word of God, then you have made the > > > > same choices I have. > > > > > > Speaking for myself, not exactly. I don't believe any of > > > them, but I haven't made the choice to rant > > > > Pejorative characterization. Are you "ranting" about me? > > > > about how > > > "absurd" it is for the folks who do to have "superstitious > > > tribal beliefs." > > > > So you think female circumcision should be respected as just another belief > > option? You don't think any of the beliefs that relate to honor killing > > among tribes in Afghanistan could be characterized this way? > > > > > > < I haven't chosen to declare their beliefs > > > "bullshit" or "horrific and repugnant" > > > > So you haven't declared it. You still believe that about some of these > > beliefs, don't you? > > > > > > < or accuse them of making "absurdly inflated claims."> > > > > So you think it is not absurdly inflated to believe that you know the mind > > of God? OK good for you, I do. I also believe that people who claim to > > know what happens after we die are making absurdly inflated claims. How > > would you characterize people who believe you are going to burn in hell for > > eternity for not believing in Jesus as your personal savior? Is my > > characterization to harsh? How you you prefer to characterize the beliefs > > of people who are absolutely sure of that fact? > > > > I haven't chosen to > > > announce that society should "denounce" their beliefs. > > > > You have just made different choices where to focus your attention. You > > are just as opposed as I am and western society as a whole to the belief > > that blowing yourself up brings an eternal reward. Oh sorry it is the > > actions, not the belief. It is just fine for them to believe that blowing > > themselves and innocent people makes one a martyr as long as they don't do > > it themselves? So everyone else in that society who condones it are just > > fine in their precious religious beliefs, right? Their belief is no > > problem at all. Same with the people who believe women are less than men > > based on their scriptures, those beliefs should not be challenged, right. > > We just wait till they beat their women and then go after them for the > > their actions? And racism is cool as a belief too I suppose as long as > > they don't act on it. To each his or her own when it comes to beliefs? > > Wrong to denounce beliefs we think are morally repugnant in society? Not > > for me. > > > > I > > > don't demean religious people by referring to their > > > "special books" and "imaginary friends." > > > > But these are precise description. They are considered special books from > > any others men have written. What exactly is your problem with this > > characterizations? And if you don't believe in any of the versions of God > > then they are just as imaginary for you as they are for me. Just because > > you haven't posted on this board about your POV doesn't make you superior. > > You don't believe in them either you just don't speak up about it. Your > > choice, but you can get off your high horse about it. > > > > > > Not believing in scripture doesn't automatically lead to > > > those choices. > > > > No you can choose other things to focus on to denounce and to discuss that > > you see as injustices or as important to discuss on a spiritual discussion > > board. Including your denunciation of my POV which I have chosen not to > > characterize as a rant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
