--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> >
> > authfriend wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], cardemaister <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >   
> > >> http://www.playpianotoday.com/updates.html
> > >>
> > >> I think, at 6:56 he sez octave is the toughest interval
> > >> for him to hear. That's strange. For me it's by far the
> > >> easiest! :0
> > >
> > > That's what he says, and that is *very* odd.
> > 
> > Ear training was taught poorly when I went to college.  The
> > students who depended on it to play their instruments were
> > the best at it.  But those who often wanted to compose and
> > played fixed pitch instruments like piano it could be
> > difficult.  That's why I knew a lot of arrangers who were
> > trombone players and could sit down at a sheet of manuscript
> > paper and write out an arrangement they heard in their head.
> > It was when I took voice lessons from a really good teacher
> > and he simply put one through a bunch of exercises just to
> > train the voice for interval jumps that I became better at 
> > recognizing intervals.
> 
> All this seems very odd to me as well. The only instrument
> I've ever played was the piano; took lessons for about three
> years starting when I was around 8 or 9, never got beyond
> the stage of obligatory performance at the music teacher's
> students' recital. I'd been picking out simple tunes by ear
> on the piano for years before that, though.
> 
> What's weird is I don't remember ever *learning* intervals.
> On the piano, it's pretty obvious what they are because
> they correspond to the number of keys from one note of the
> interval to the other: C to G is a fifth because G is the
> fifth key above C. And I never had any trouble recognizing
> sung intervals because they sounded like the ones on the
> piano.
> 
> *Chords* are a different story; I can recognize all the
> basic ones that are used in classical music, but blues-
> type chords or other fancy ones I'd have to do some work
> on.
> 
> I do a weird trick: I can whistle and hum in harmony,
> including some really complicated (rhythmically and
> harmonically) two-part harmony. (One of my showpieces
> is whistling "Humoresque" while humming "Swanee River."
> Also some of the Gilbert and Sullivan choruses in which
> the men and women sing entirely different tunes, and a
> Bach two-part invention.)
> 
> Basically, I have a good ear, I guess. I don't have
> perfect pitch, though.

Having a perfect pitch is admirable.  But to play the piano at the concert 
level, one has to have a fantastic memory to know the entire score and playing 
it in real time with no mistakes.  Music talent is hard work as much as a gift 
at birth.





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