In [email protected], tartbrain <no_re...@...> wrote: In [email protected], "lurkernomore20002000" steve.sundur@ wrote:
> > Please tell me how you propose to deal with Islamist extremists whose objective is to kill Americans here, there, anywhere. > > > Well, to start, by acknowledging the huge debt of the US, and the people of Eastern Europe, an the world have for the 12 year struggle where Afghani Islamic Jihadist Freedom Fighters broke the back and bank of the Soviet Union and were arguably the key factor in ending the Cold War. I guess this ending the cold war is kind of like the 1965 Ford Mustang. As lee Iocca said, and I paraphrase, "You've got so many people taking credit for being the father of this thing, I'd hate to be the mother" By stopping raw Soviet imperialism in Afganistan they stopped a highly probable capture of most middle eastern oil fields and a firm military hold all the way to the Indian Ocean. We would have a very different world today if that occurred. Sounds a little assumptive to me. Kind of like the domino theory sort of thing. Is that what you are saying? > > However, instead of thanks, the US said "good-by and fuck you" what should we have done, stuck around? Colonized it? I thought the whole idea was to say goodbye. -- and then wonders why they don't love the US. So first, a little perspective and deserved huge respect would go a long way in dealing with the true Afghanhi heroes, many whom when fucked over did evolve into anti-americanism. True appreciation of these Afghani heroes would be a good first step kind of like a cake cutting ceromony, and ringing the bell of invincibility for Afganistan? and go a long way in ending hostilities with many islamic jihadists Their primary fight is with long standing American global bombastic and abusive policies and American arrogance and exceptionalism. please site some examples of what we did to antagonize the Afgan people > > British, Spanish, Soviet, French, German, Japanese and American imperialism have screwed so many millions of people over for centuries (in some cases). Is it a wonder some react to violence with violence? okay, so that is the crux of your argument. This is payback? Karmic payback? I will be honest. This makes about as much sense as anything else I've heard. But does just plain hatred, and even jealousy play any role. Does the fact that their holy book prescribes killing any non believers play a role? Are you saying that we deserve this" That England deserves subway bombings, that France and Copenhagen deserve having citizens murdered who poke fun at other people's religious beliefs? > > If you look at the world with a five year perspective one is bound to > be confused. Has it ever been otherwise >
