--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <steve.sun...@...> wrote: > > Okay, thanks for elaborating on that. I follow along pretty > well, and see the point you are trying to make. Apart from > this consideration, however, when you introduce "karma" into > the equation, then I think things get more personal. Like, > you die. You are reborn. You have a period of reflection in > between. (my notion only) You have your good and bad actions > which now need to be balanced back on the earthly plane.
Just as a point, a belief in karma does *not* imply a belief in reincarnation. My original example of "thief samskaras" created by getting away with being a thief in the past works just as well if you don't believe in reincarnation at all. > From some of things I've read, mostly from Rudolf Steiner, > there is a pretty elaborate, yet straight forward protocal. For what? I am unfamiliar with Steiner, and thus don't know what you are referring to. > ...(and by the way, he does not bring up the idea of God in > describing this work out) But I am not sure how the notion > of karma, and the resolution of our karma gets balanced without > the intervention of some kind of higher organzizing power, > divine or otherwise. "Intervention" would obviate and invalidate the whole idea of karma, which IMO is that *you* are supposed to learn from the results of your own actions. You steal. Something happens to your state of attention as a result; it sinks "lower." You steal again, it happens again. Sooner or later you figure this out and stop stealing. There is no "intervention" involved with this, merely individual responsibility. I think people get all fucked up by associating the very simple, clear concept of karma with the very murky, unclear concept of reincarnation. I am talk- ing about karma in its sense as simple actions and the results of those action. I said, nor implied, anything about reincarnation in my previous posts.