--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It probably depends on what you are doing it for. Seeing if it 
effects 
> world peace or coherence with just a few thousand people is kinda 
like 
> seeing if a couple thousand people putting salt in the ocean will 
> produce measurable results in ocean salinity...
> 
> But I know of ways this has worked for specific people, for 
specific 
> ends. One that comes to mind is learning the phowa or the 
transference 
> of consciousness. Normally this involves going into strict retreat 
and 
> practicing  methods to actually open the fontanel to be able to 
> transfer consciousness and obtain enlightenment at the moment of 
death. 
> Of course it has other benefits as well. But it's a rigorous 
practice: 
> lots of visualization and working with your life force to actually 
> physically obtain signs of success. Some can do that, some can't. 
Most 
> will begin to break through in a couple of days, others later. But 
> there are almost always some who cannot. Maybe it's age, maybe 
it's 
> illness--there are a number of reasons people can't achieve 
results. So 
> what we do is put the people who are having a hard time in our 
group 
> focus and help them awaken. And guess what, it works.
> 
> I've done the same with people who couldn't visualize a mandala or 
a 
> deity practice, etc. and it has always had tangible results in 
helping 
> others with their practice accomplishment--and then they to gain 
> greater capacity to help others. So it's a true win-win thing.
> 
> I can see the same benefit in awakening shakti in the early TM 
days. I 
> think it helped others in their practice. Did it help world peace? 
Not 
> sure...maybe, maybe not. But it definitely produces some sort of 
> entrainment effect or morphogenetic field--whatever you want to 
call 
> it.

Nice post, Vaj; thanks. Yes, I can definitely buy the idea of a 
morphogenetic field, and a collective-consciousness "deva" and so 
on. I am mostly reacting to my experience that FF is (to me) a more 
excitingly harmonious and coherently sattvic community now than ever 
before, with so many more people now happily exploring their own 
paths. You probably wouldn't believe this town these days! Perhaps 
the many years they all spent exploring TM created enough of a 
coherent field to sustain all the heterodox exploration; perhaps it 
is simply the more widespread opening of Heart, which goes 
fearlessly beyond conceptual limits to embrace the Other as the 
Self; I don't know... but I like it, and in my experience anyhow the 
dome has next to nothing to do with it :-)




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