There seems to be an ordinary component and an extraordinary component, i.e. 
rare, unusual; as is the case with the demonstration of genuine Siddhis.  In 
such cases, we can't conclude "ordinariness".
Now let's see if we can find examples of the ordinary folk, versus the 
extraordinary.

1. The BatGap people appear to be in the ordinary category. They need to 
clarify what's in "it" for others: the benefits of being Awakened.  Some of the 
self-benefits are spoken of, but as Barry points out, where's the relevance for 
others and if so why are such people speaking out at all?  Good point indeed! 
Score one for the Skeptics.
...
2. Unfortunately, the numbers of people in the "extraordinary" category are so 
rare: e.g. Ramakrishna, Guru Dev, Nityananda, etc; that we are stymied in our 
attempted analysis.
While it appears that the BatGap people are ordinary folk, certainly, one would 
not say Nityananda (who was observed walking on water and stopping a train in 
its tracks, as well as manifesting various objects out of thin air), was 
anything but extraordinary.
...
3. I'm looking forward to meeing a stock market Guru who can predict the 
future.  I challenged Flanagan to come up with a prediction but he failed.  
So if MMY has to beg for $$ and use deceit to line his pockets, what gives here?


--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> <snip>
> > I'm not buying this shit. I think awakening is
> > pretty ordinary stuff, and that all that the 
> > awakened "deserve" is to be treated exactly like 
> > everyone else.
> 
> Well, let's say you treat them exactly like everyone
> else you don't care for--i.e., with extreme hostility.
>


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