--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_re...@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > > > Paramatman is supremely independent. Those who think "He is the > > > unmanifest and is not manifest," or "He is manifest, not unmanifest," > > > have not understood the teaching about Paramatman's essence. Taking one > > > side or the other, they start fighting. We should not become involved in > > > the argument about manifest and unmanifest. The One who is manifest is > > > also the unmanifest. > > > > > > > ekaM sad, vipraa bahudhaa vadanti! > > > > -- RSi Diirghatamas, RV I 164 > > > > "Interesting" word, that 'vipra'! It seems to appear very > often in the RV, especially in the 1st maNDala, in its > various inflectional forms. > > Above it's in the nominative plural (vipraaH). The visarga (H) > at the end disappears because of sandhi (in this case, before > the *voiced* consonant 'b' in 'bahudhaa'; so, the pada-paaTha > would prolly be: ekam; sat; vipraaH; bahudhaa vadanti) > > Ralph T.H. Griffith translates 'vipraaH' above to 'sages': > > To what is One, sages give many a title... > > Now, 'vipra' seems to be derived form the root 'vip': > > vip, vepate 1 ({-ti}) tremble, quake, vibrate; C. {vepayati} shake, [[,]] > agitate. -- > > vipra a. stirred inwardly, inspired, wise, learned, clever; m. seer, poet, > singer, priest, a Brahman. >
In the "famous" Amarakosha, 'vipra' *seems* to refer to the braahmaNa "caste" (varNa): vipraxatriyaviT shuudraashchaaturvarNyamiti sm.rtam (vipra-kSatriya-viT[= vaishya??] shuudraash chaatur- varNyam iti smRtam)