--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutp...@...> wrote: > > We all deeply care about who MMY was for us.
In what way. He was a teacher, he was a mentor for some, a friend for some. Are you seeing it more complicated than that? > Love him, hate him or anything in between we've never experienced anybody > like this. Well, I have never experienced anyone like anyone. Its not a strong qualifier for me. > We deeply invested in MMY and by default the TMO. For me MMY will always be a > profound paradox. Why? Atman and karma (Prarabdah -- lesh avidya. the later is stronger and more complex than in some.) What eles is there to know? And, IMO, part of his approach to ripping away boundaries was to do just that -- start a project, get every one totally dedicated, rip it away, etc. He had no qualms about blowing peoples minds, literally -- though I do not see him as actively being a "crazy saint". He just didn't give a S how you or I saw. He did what he did -- as his karma and tendencies unfolded. And much of that did literally blow his followers minds -- to good effect -- and he was good with that, IMO. >I deeply love the guy and I'm also mildly pissed at him. Why pissed? What did you not get from him. Just let it go. > I wish, as many do, I had a more personal relationship with him. My view, which I took from him, is he was Atman -- the smudges don't matter a hoot. Why get hung up on, or waste time on them. > I wish I knew the guy himself. But that was not to be. I wish he hadn't hide > away in Holland for all those years. I wish we knew all about his various > physical ailments. I wish there was more of a "human" element in his > relationship towards us. I don't think that MMY really knew how much people > wanted to love him; to know him. He had a lot of goodwill out there that just > evaporated away as he isolated himself and the absurdity took over. Paper > crowns, anyone? > I sense some genuine sense of loss and missed opportunities. I wish you the best in healing those. But he gave you Atman. What else do you want? (What else do you deserve is another questions, but that's all smudges within smudges.) > --- On Thu, 8/5/10, Sal Sunshine <salsunsh...@...> wrote: > > > From: Sal Sunshine <salsunsh...@...> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How do YOU view Maharishi? > > To: "Yahoo Group" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 1:01 PM > > On Aug 5, 2010, at 10:32 AM, > > curtisdeltablues wrote: > > >> Who cares who or what MMY was? > > > > > > I do for one. He was an interesting guy. > > > > I agree~~fascinating. > > Which is one reason we're all still gabbing away > > about him. > > > > > <The sole question of import was, IMO, did you get > > something of value in your life, or did you not. If not, why > > did you stick around.> > > > > > > That seems like a pretty low bar. I get > > something out of every experience I have. > > > > It may very well be a low bar, but it's usually > > the one I use as well. :) > > > > Seriously, I think the words "of value" are the > > operative ones here. > > > > > < (I tend to think many stayed around for > > ego-driven reasons -- wanting to be a part of something > > fantastic, earth shaking, transformational (as in "I was > > there" as opposed to selflessly lending a helping > > hand).> > > > > > > > > > I think you are being kind of hard on movement people > > and seeing all smudge. We all had mixed motivations > > but certainly we were chasing our own personal > > enlightenment. I never met anyone who could meet the > > standard of "selflessly lending a helping hand." > > > > I did, Curtis~~totally selflessly. > > So now you've met one. :) > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > >
