--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > So you don't think any of MMY's teaching about > > > > > the nature of realization is accurate or useful > > > > > from the vantage point of ignorance? > > > > > > > > No, I don't, particularly. Rather, at a certain point it appears to > > > > allow one to more or less happily remain in ignorance, locked into a > > > > conceptual framework of other-than-now and a belief in fully > > > > automatic, painless, effortless, mythical enlightenment "by-and-by," > > > > measuring oneself by our ideas of criteria set by others, not by > > > > those actual criteria honestly set by oneself. In other words, seen > > > > from one vantage point it appears to be truly magnificent at keeping > > > > many people asleep. While the description of the states of > > > > consciousness is stunningly beautiful, even this at best is a > > > > conceptual fairy-tale :-) > > > > > > Never been said better. Thank you. > > > > A thousand or so messages earlier I noticed that a lot of the 'newly > > awakened' didn't get that way until they left the TMO and/or TM. I > > find this interesting. I seems that TM provides a good platform that > > sometimes needs to be jumped off of...Rory is spot on! > > And possibly it's the "jumping off" itself that acts as the > catalyst for realization, rather than what it is the student > is jumping off *of*. >
<<snip>> > "Walking away" means finally coming to trust oneself and > one's intuition more than one trusts outside "authorities" > or lineage or tradition. That trust may be the catalyst IMO. Thanks - hadn't thought of it that way before - makes sense. It is a curious phenomena. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
