--- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], johnlasher20002000 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Guru Dev says that it's not good for women to use aum as part 
of their
> > > mantra, however Ammachi gives women mantras which use aum in the
> > > begining. Since both are enlightened masters what is the 
reality in
> > > this situation???
> > 
> > Who says either is/was an enlightened master?
> 
> 
> ********
> 
> I will cheerfully step up to the plate for this one.
> 
> Anyone who thinks Guru Dev was not enlightened is an idiot.
> 
> Ammachi is a different kind of critter; it might be more correct to 
think of her as an avatar, 
> although I have no problem at all thinking of her as 
an "enlightened master" if that's the 
> assertion being offered for consideration.
> 
> L B S

Clearly you think more highly of Ammachi than of SBS. I'm wondering 
why you are sure that EITHER was "an enlightened master..."




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