---Before enlightenment, we experience ourselves as the ego, or the "limited self" or the "small self. So, that which is desiring is desiring from the ego. As long as one remains in the ego, it is a constant battle to preclude any desire that would not be attatched to expectation. It's almost like the only part of the brain that is developed is the linear part, that can only see, a very minute space and time, and can only percieve how things, "come into being" by logical steps; as if the part of the brain which sees things synthesized or whole is not integrated into brain function. (This integrated brain function/left/right hemisphere correlation and balancing of the hemesheres, that produces enlightenment and witnessing can be enhanced by holosync technology; from my experience, and some of my friends, enhancing the TM experience and advanced techniques; see: centerpointe.com). In enlightenment, one is already fulfilled or has the goal of any desire fulfilled in one's being. The Self is Realized as the soul or Atma, no longer bound by the ego, or mind created small self. So, the real question becomes, how is desire different in Enlightenment and ignorance. So, desire in ignorance is based on ego gratification, on some level or another. Desire in enlightenment is to further advance the "Will of God", meaning as one identifies no longer with the ego, or small mind created, space/time defined values; but instead begins to experience one's self as the essence of the creative source of the universe, and that one is compelled to "Co- Create with the Divine source to further Divinity. There is no small self to limit or define, what any particular expectation even is, rather the process of creating and clearing the way for, and eliminating that which blocks creativity, is the guiding force of all action in enlightenment. One is no longer attatched to any result ultimately, if one is already established in the fulfillment of all expectations, to experience and live in the inner bliss, which is expressed and reflected in all of the creation,and in which we furthter expand the bliss, by extending our nature, kind of like a catch-22; you have enlightened action, without expectation, not when you can give up desire, but when you desire from an enlighened state, where all your desires are already ultimately fulfilled; as you experience your essential self as Bliss.
In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > There are expectations that invoke anger and there > > > are expectations that invoke temporary satisfaction. > > > From the point of view of Buddhist thought, both are > > > equally binding, and both are equally premeditated. > > > > Just to clarify, even the expectations that "work out" > > and bring about a temporary sense of satisfaction > > are binding, because the happiness, being relative > > and based on relative phenomena, cannot last. And > > when it doesn't last, one gets angry and frustrated. > > > > In the Buddhist paradigm, the only way to break the > > cycle is to get beyond expectation. Some have inter- > > preted this teaching as needing to get beyond desire, > > but I don't agree with that interpretation. Desire is > > always going to be present. What does not need to > > be present is attachment to the fruits of desire or > > aversion to the desire not being fulfilled. In other > > words, the aspect of the equation that is in our control > > is expectation. If you're working with the handicap of > > expectations, you are by definition (according to this > > theory) setting yourself up for a fall, locking yourself > > into the attraction/aversion desire cycle, the wheel > > of karma. > > > > What is a desire without expectation? > > It seems, at best, to be a eunuch desire. Or a paraplaegic desire. > > If there is no expectation, then there is no link between an impulse > towards action and its result. Desires in that context appear empty, > phantom, vacuous. > > I am not questioning the beauty of letting go of expectations -- and > all of its offspring such as judgements. (How can you judge a person > if you have no expectations of their behavior?) > > I don't see how desires exist (or last very long) without > expectations. Without expectation, what remains are impulses towards > activity. "Do that which ought to be done" captures part of that mode > but can imply a moral authority. Its more "Do that which ought to be > done -- the 'ought' not being dictated by some moral authority or > code, but from rational analysis, common sense and sometimes intuition." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
