--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
> >
> > Turq, do you have a web site for the previous cutting 
> > and burning reports? Also, I wouldn't call it sociopathy, 
> > but more psychopathology.  
> 
> You're the expert on that sorta nomenclature, so I
> leave it up to you. 
> 
> I'm sorry but whatever site I found the "cutting and
> burning" stuff on has rolled off of my Recently Closed 
> Folders list. My memory is that it was way, way, way 
> down in one of the comments on the Chi-ting website 
> that someone posted a link to yesterday, but it could 
> have been somewhere else.

http://tinyurl.com/68ecuyd

> I did a lot of searching on 
> this last night because I'm interested in "spiritual 
> teacher suicides," so it could have been anywhere. 
> I know that it wasn't a direct link from either Google
> or Yahoo; I had to dig WAY down and click a number of
> other links on the Google-found page to discover it.
> 
> Or I could have misread it. Searching a couple of
> long Comments pages on Chi-ting today, I find refer-
> ences to her body being scarred by diabetes.

http://tinyurl.com/64frzrj


> But 
> I could have sworn someone mentioned the self-
> mutilation thang on one of the sites, and as I
> remember it was from several years back, not 
> recent. 

I think chi-ting made a spoof about the self immolation before it actually 
happened!

> I'm sure more stuff will come out soon, from many
> sources. What I fully expect to happen with some of
> the TB sources is what happened with Rama; some 
> devotees will claim that her suicide was some kind 
> of noble sacrifice. A few will probably claim that 
> she was an example of spontaneous human combustion
> or something similarly miraculous. Anything rather 
> that admit the possibility that they might have
> been worshiping a crazy person.
> 
> > --- On Tue, 3/8/11, turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Radha Ma RIP
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 4:58 AM
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "feste37" <feste37@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know why she would do such a thing? I had
> > > > never heard of her, but I just looked at her Facebook
> > > > page. Self-immolation -- wtf?
> > > 
> > > Based on reports on the Web that she used to
> > > regularly cut and burn herself to "prove" to
> > > her devotees that she was beyond pain, and
> > > was covered with scars as a result, might I
> > > suggest that the following list of "criteria for
> > > sociopathy" might be a good place to start
> > > when trying to figure out "why?"
> > > 
> > > The woman sounds crazier to me than Ravi
> > > was when he first showed up here.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > * Glibness and Superficial Charm.
> > > 
> > > * Manipulative and Cunning. They never recognize the rights
> > > of others
> > > and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They
> > > appear to be
> > > charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing
> > > their victim
> > > as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and
> > > humiliate
> > > their victims.
> > > 
> > > * Grandiose Sense of Self. Feels entitled to certain things
> > > as "their
> > > right."
> > > 
> > > * Pathological Lying. Has no problem lying coolly and
> > > easily and it is
> > > almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent
> > > basis. Can
> > > create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their
> > > own powers
> > > and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass
> > > lie detector
> > > tests.
> > > 
> > > * Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt. A deep seated rage,
> > > which is split
> > > off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others
> > > around them as
> > > people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of
> > > friends, they
> > > have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end
> > > always
> > > justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their
> > > way.
> > > 
> > > * Shallow Emotions. When they show what seems to be warmth,
> > > joy, love
> > > and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and
> > > serves an
> > > ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet
> > > remaining
> > > unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since
> > > they are not
> > > genuine, neither are their promises.
> > > 
> > > * Incapacity for Love.
> > > 
> > > * Need for Stimulation. Living on the edge. Verbal
> > > outbursts and
> > > physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling
> > > are common.
> > > 
> > > * Callousness/Lack of Empathy. Unable to empathize with the
> > > pain of
> > > their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of
> > > distress and
> > > readily taking advantage of them.
> > > 
> > > * Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature. Rage and
> > > abuse, alternating
> > > with small expressions of love and approval produce an
> > > addictive cycle
> > > for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in
> > > the victim.
> > > Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to
> > > every wish, no
> > > sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact
> > > on others.
> > > 
> > > * Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency. Usually has
> > > a history of
> > > behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by
> > > conning others.
> > > Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors
> > > such as
> > > cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
> > > 
> > > * Irresponsibility/Unreliability. Not concerned about
> > > wrecking others'
> > > lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the
> > > devastation they
> > > cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others,
> > > even for
> > > acts they obviously committed.
> > > 
> > > * Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity. Promiscuity,
> > > child sexual
> > > abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
> > > 
> > > * Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle. Tends to
> > > move around
> > > a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future,
> > > poor work ethic
> > > but exploits others effectively.
> > > 
> > > * Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility. Changes their
> > > image as needed
> > > to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
> > > 
> > > * Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them.
> > > 
> > > * Authoritarian.
> > > 
> > > * Secretive.
> > > 
> > > * Paranoid.
> > > 
> > > * Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out
> > > situations where
> > > their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or
> > > admired.
> > > 
> > > * Goal of enslavement of their victim(s).
> > > 
> > > * Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the
> > > victim's life.
> > > 
> > > * Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and
> > > therefore needs
> > > their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love).
> > > 
> > > * Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim.
> > > 
> > > * Unable to feel remorse or guilt.
> > > 
> > > * Extreme narcissism and grandiose.
> > > 
> > > * May state readily that their goal is to rule the world.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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