--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > This is WILDLY inaccurate.  Go back and review
> > > > > the discussion, where I thoroughly debunked this
> > > > > right-wing slander.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here's a link to my first post on the topic; click
> > > > > "Show Options" and then "View Thread" to see the
> > > > > rest of the exchange:
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ath28
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just one excerpt, a quote from conservative 
> > > > > reporter Bob Zelnick's book on Al Gore, Jr.,
> > > > > published by the right-wing Regnery Press
> > > > > (Zelnick was fired from ABC because of the
> > > > > book, which was quite critical of Al Gore,
> > > > > Jr.).  Here's Zelnick, referring to Gore Sr.:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "The actions of Gore, [Sen. Estes] Kefauver, and, at the 
> > > > > state level, [Gov. Frank] Clement, and their courage and 
> > > > > decency on the civil rights issue, would be more a source 
> > > > > of political trouble than benefit in Tennessee, though 
> > > > > none of the three ever lost an election because of his 
> > > > > position, at least until Gore's defeat in his 1970 
> > > > > campaign. Each reelection would be challenged and each man 
> > > > > would be accused of being "out of touch" with sentiment 
> > > > > in the state, or worse yet, a traitor to his region, 
> > > > > his heritage, and his people. None of the three ever 
> > > > > backed down. None ever engaged in racial demagoguery. None 
> > > > > would ever require sympathetic chroniclers to explain that 
> > > > > his conduct had to be judged in the context of his time 
> > > > > and its political exigencies. Their courage would inspire 
> > > > > later generations of southerners who sought to purge the 
> > > > > region of its terrible racial heritage."
> > > > 
> > > > Al Gore Sr. was a racist and a segregationist.  Fact.
> > > 
> > > Not a fact but a deliberate falsehood, a slander,
> > > as the above quote from a *conservative* journalist,
> > > in a book *critical* of Al Gore, Jr., published by
> > > a *right-wing* house, makes quite clear.
> > > 
> > > You really should take a stab at reading what
> > > it says.
> > > 
> > > > Spin it and parse it as you like, Judy.
> > > 
> > > No spinning or parsing necessary, Shemp.  The
> > > facts are on the record.
> > 
> > ...but Al Gore's vote against the Civil Rights Act isn't?
> 
> > Let's suppose for a minute that Gore, like you say, was the most 
> > wonderful egalitarian of all time
> 
> I never said that.
> 
> > and always supported "the 
> > colored's" as he (and, presumably, you) would call African-
> > Americans
> 
> Shemp, you're just making yourself ridiculous
> with this kind of garbage.
> 
> , yet had only that one slip and voted against civil rights 
> > just that once.
> > 
> > Wouldn't that one slip be enough to brand him a racist 
> > segregationist?
> 
> Nope.  Because (as you know; we discussed this
> in some detail) he wasn't voting against civil
> rights, he was voting against the Civil Rights
> Act.  He was afraid that under its provisions,
> public institutions such as hospitals and schools
> would not be able to desegregate fast enough and
> would lose federal funding.  He was strongly in
> favor of desgregation but thought the timetable
> specified in the act did not provide enough time
> for the switch to take place.



...and I suppose while those Tennessee hospitals were "slowly" 
desegregating, Al Senior would still readily partake of those 
hospitals' services just so he could show Al Junior the evils of 
segregation, right?





> 
> It's quite common, as you know--or should know--
> for legislators to vote against a particular
> piece of legislation not because they oppose it
> in principle, but because they oppose one or
> more of its provisions.
> 
> Unfortunately, dishonest politicians and their
> supporters will sometimes use such a vote 
> against the legislator, claiming he or she
> opposed the law in principle.  That's what
> the right wing has done with Al Gore, Sr.,
> and you're perpetuating the slander.
> 
> > > You also misrepresented our previous discussion;
> > > that's on the record too.




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