--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > [Barry wrote:]
> > > > When this reverse discrimination is done just to win
> > > > a silly argument and prove one's out-of-control ego
> > > > "right," it's almost more offensive than when it's
> > > > done out of true hatred.
> > > 
> > > This exchange is starting to take a hard turn because
> > > nobody is either an expert on the topic or they did
> > > not live back then in the deep south. One thing is
> > > true, and that is that history is re-visionist. What
> > > we say happened "back then" is not necessarily so.
> > 
> > Peter, with respect, Barry has sucked you into
> > a made-up version of this exchange.  Barry has
> > *given* it the "hard turn" you mention all on his
> > lonesome.
> > 
> > Nobody here has taken the stance Barry is arguing
> > against.  It's a big fat straw man of Barry's own
> > creation.  Go back and read the posts.  The only
> > two people in this discussion to say anything about
> > "what happened back then" are in agreement *with
> > Barry* that discrimination against blacks wasn't
> > absolute.
> > 
> > Bear in mind where this started: Shemp's claim that
> > Al Gore Sr. was a segregationist.
> > 
> > Because this notion is entirely contrary to the
> > known facts of Gore's record, Shemp is left to
> > support his claim with only the vanishingly unlikely
> > possibility that the Gores (and their nanny, who was
> > black) lied about having to eat at whites-only
> > restaurants on their trips from Nashville to D.C.
> > 
> > Tell me *that* attempt to play the race card in
> > order to smear Al Gore Jr. isn't offensive.
> 
> How is Al Gore smeared by all this?

Guilt by association, obviously.

> Firstly, I don't believe it is morally right to visit the sins of 
> the father unto the son and, secondly, I am a great admirer of Al 
> Gore, largely due to his historically significant defense of and 
> promotion of the passage of NAFTA, particularly in that famous
> Larry King debate with Ross Perot.  So why would I want to smear 
> him?

Because he's a Democrat.

It doesn't matter, though, whether you have
adopted the reason the smear of Gore's father
was launched by the right wing in the first
place; the slander of Gore Sr. alone is
unspeakably vile.

> If anything, I am interested in smearing the kind of stereotyping 
> that you, Judy, engage in on an almost daily basis by promoting 
> your "liberals/Democrats always perfect, conservatives/Republicans 
> always evil" agenda by pointing out that things are not always as 
> black and white as you try to make them out to be.

Except, of course, that this is yet another figment
of your very vivid imagination.





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