Yes, and not only that I've had software listed there.

gullible fool wrote:

>Have you tried this site for shareware?
>http://www.download.com/
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>--- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>uns_tressor wrote:
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>>>>--- In [email protected], Bhairitu
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>>>>>Patrick Gillam wrote:
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>>>>>>Can anyone in the room recommend shareware I 
>>>>>>can use to manipulate PDFs and JPEGs?
>>>>>>If you'd like to reply off-list to keep the
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>>>>>>down, I'm sure everyone will appreciate it.
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>>>>>>Thank you kindly!
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>>>>>>- Patrick Gillam
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>>>>>There are printer drivers that output to PDF
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>>files instead of a 
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>>>>>printer.  That way you can use almost any
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>>graphics or 
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>>>wordprocessor to 
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>>>>>create PDFs.   These are far less expensive than
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>>buying Acrobat 
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>>>>>$25 for one).  In some more recent programs may
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>>be able to export 
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>>>to 
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>>>>>PDF.  Just do some searches.
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>>>>>Thanks for "staying legal."  Software development
>>>>>of today's products takes large teams composed of
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>>>>>specialists in their field and somebody has to
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>>pay 
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>>>>>for that.  Without the income the software 
>>>>>won't exist.
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>>>>>- Bhairitu
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>>>Ever heard of Linux? Historians will have two
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>>observations
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>>>on 20th Century IT. The first is that someone made
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>>67
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>>>thousand millions of pounds selling faulty goods
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>>and the 
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>>>other is that so many people put up with it.
>>>Don't bleed for fat cats that cause problems for
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>>others
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>>>by not accepting responsibility for their goods
>>>Uns.
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>>Uns, you have a short memory ;-)  I mentioned a
>>while back I am using 
>>Linux in fact right now  on Knoppix with Thunderbird
>>as my email 
>>client.  I very much think that for operating
>>systems open source is the 
>>way to go.  Microsoft is a Frankenstein monster
>>unleashed on the world 
>>by circumstance.  It needs to be broken up into
>>about 100 companies (or 
>>maybe 1000).  Even Bill Gates said in the early
>>1990s it might be better 
>>broken up into 3 companies.  But he never did it.  I
>>would even bet that 
>>right now there is a Microsoft Linux group in
>>Redmond. :)
>>
>>Open Source for apps can be good too especially if
>>it's a niche market 
>>item where the customers who would be interested
>>don't have the income 
>>to purchase it.  However we often have to wait for a
>>complete product 
>>from open source folks and if the folks driving the
>>development get 
>>bored or get offered a good job (because someone
>>noticed their work on 
>>the project) then the project falters.
>>
>>Pricing commercial software can be high voodoo too. 
>>You need to make a 
>>profit to survive and you need to cover your
>>development expenses.  Even 
>>then it is a crap shoot.   Price it too high and
>>your customers won't 
>>buy it and price it too low and folks won't think
>>it's worth anything.  
>>Hmm.... reminds me of something else. ;-)
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>>As for bugs, your tester usually miss something that
>>shows up as soon as 
>>you release.  Therefore all first releases should be
>>considered betas 
>>unless the program is really simple.  Open betas
>>help with the process 
>>but for some products won't be practical.  And bugs
>>aren't limited to 
>>just software.  Your computer, your TV, your DVD
>>player, camcorder, 
>>digital camera, game console, etc.  all ship with
>>bugs which required 
>>workarounds.  Believe me, just because the product
>>has a big company 
>>name on it doesn't mean the code is any better. 
>>Often there is a 
>>distance between the desires of the suits that run
>>the company (who are 
>>often clueless about how software and hardware is
>>developed) and the 
>>realities of the development team.
>>
>>- the Geek Tantrik
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