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--- In [email protected], "emptybill" <emptybill@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Richard,
> 
> Calm down and consider the facts long demonstrated here on FFL.
> 
> Vaj is a classic newsgroup troll ... someone whose only purpose is to
> cause
> everyone else to argue, to "provoke readers to an emotional reaction"
> and
> to "disrupt normal on-topic discussion".
> 
> "A concern troll is a false flag
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag>  pseudonym created by a user
> whose actual point of view
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_%28cognitive%29>  is opposed
> to the one that the user claims to hold. The concern troll posts in Web
> forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the
> group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingroup_bias> , but with professed
> "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt> 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29#cite_note-timemag-16>
> within the group."
> 
> Vaj trolls here, along with Barry, strictly due to Rick choosing to
> allow it.
> 
> 
> 
> He seems quite amused by their behaviors.
> ………………………………………………
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "richardnelson108"
> <richardnelson108@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 19, 2011, at 6:38 PM, richardnelson108 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Vaj-  I could not help but respond to your post #277247.
> > > >
> > > > Why do you continually feel the need to act like an expert about
> things you know nothing about.
> > > >
> > > > You say we now "know two things".  We do not "know" anything.  We
> do not "know" that Guru dev never authorized MMY to teach.
> > >
> > > Yes, we do know this. In fact, it would run contrary to the spirit
> of SBS's beliefs for him to authorize Mahesh to teach. SO this is really
> no huge surprise.
> > >
> > > >   We do not " know" that MMY kept the poem that the pundit wrote
> about Guru Dev, even though he was told to throw it away.  Where do you
> get your facts from?
> > >
> > > The origin of the TM puja has been exhaustively researched and it's
> sources have been known for several years.
> > >
> > > > You make up these things to fit your point of view.  Nowhere in
> the story that MMY told about that poem (which is the only source from
> which we even know this poem existed) did he say he kept it, even though
> Guru Dev told him to throw it in the Ganges.  And it is clear that you
> know nothing about MMY because the one thing you can bet your life on is
> that if Guru Dev told MMMY to do something, it would be done.  You make
> assumptions based on nothing.
> > >
> > > > Another great lie that you have continued to propigate in past
> posts is that MMY poisoned Guru Dev.  There has never been any evidence
> that this is true.  But yet you continue to quote it as if it is
> scripture.
> > >
> > > No, I said he was one of the main SUSPECTS.
> > >
> > > I don't believe it is possible at this late to know what exactly
> happened.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > FINALLY SOME TRUTH FROM YOU VAJ!  It is too late to know exactly what
> happened!  So why must you write as if you do know?
> >
> > And that is Bullshit that MMY was one of the main suspects in the so
> called poisoning.
> >
> > STOP SPREADING THESE RUMORS!  I have been to the Shankaracharya ashram
> many times and have asked many people there about this supposed
> poisoning.  Nobody there ever heard of it!
> > And hence MMY could never ever been one of the prime suspects if there
> was never even talk of a poisoning happenning in the first place.
> >
> > I also met with one of the retired Supreme court judges in Allhahabad
> who was asked to handle Guru Dev's will and all that went on with that. 
> He said there was never any talk of poisoning.
> >
> > And again, you have no idea what Guru Dev said to MMY and what he
> didn't regarding him teaching or not.
> >
> > THE POINT IS YOU DON'T KNOW AND NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE SO WHY CAN'T
> YOU JUST GIVE UP YOUR POSITION WHICH YOU CONSTANTLY HAVE TO STICK TO?
> >
> > And for those of us who have gotten something good out of what
> Maharishi gave us and it changed our lives for the better...
> > SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY.  YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT
> >
>


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