--- In [email protected], "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@...> wrote: > > Steve > > > > That's not my take. Tart is meeting parry with parry. I > > > think it's an appropiate response. I am often perplexed > > > by Tart's perspectives, but who cares. > > > Judy > > > But his whole deal is to *disparage* parrying, to portray > > himself as above that sort of thing. Skip down to around > > the middle of all the quoted stuff and read his little > > lecture, you'll see what I mean. > > This is the comments of Tart's I focussed on:
That's one of the ones I was referring to. He's putting Jim down for what you're calling "parrying," implying that he, Tart, is above it; then he goes and does it himself when Ravi tweaks him a little bit. When you criticize a particular behavior, you need to be careful not to indulge in it yourself, or you're going to look like a hypocrite. He spent most of the morning strutting around chastising various people for the way they think and behave, making I'm-so-enlightened-I-don't-have-to-do-that noises. When you look down your nose at folks and put yourself on that kind of pedestal, you invite extra scrutiny of your own behavior. <snip> > Tart again: > > > > A far as defending others, hardly. I am not interested in > > > defending myself, much less others. However, take this > > > morning, for example, I have had several nice, insightful > > > (for me) exchanges with Turq. What am I to denounce or > > > defend? In the past I have had nice exchanges with you. > > > And with Vaj, Empty Bill, Nabs, Peter, and any number of > > > others. Do I really need to join some invisible sides and > > > denounce others? Simply because others see some flaws in > > > others that are either invisible to me, or unimportant -- > > > or if they don't see the same joy in life and people that > > > I experience? > > I felt this was a pretty balanced statement and I related to it. Smug and self-satisfied is the way I'd describe it. And note that it contradicts itself, since it implies he experiences such joy in life and people that he can ignore their flaws-- while he's criticizing Jim for the flaws he, Tart, sees in him. It's tough to criticize people for criticizing people without getting caught in self-contradiction.
