--- In [email protected], tartbrain <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray1" steve.sundur@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ravi Yogi" <raviyogi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I do enjoy your constant projections of peace, happiness and love on > > to others, I'm sure you make your heroes Gandhi, MLK and the Dalai Lama > > proud of you !!! Keep it up !!! > > > > > > I know your beef with Gandi, and the Dolly Lama. But what is the > > problem with MLK? > > > > Somewhat related topic. Last night I saw a PBS documentary on the Freedom Riders. Great piece. Those students and volunteers, men and women, white and black were incredibly "ballsy" and courageous. And brought down a long standing Jim Crow policy by taking the offensive -- the Freedom Rides and practicing highly disciplined non-violent resistance against a horrendously racist and violent culture. No other tact had worked for 100 years, and I don't see how other approaches would have achieved the same result in the same time span. > > And MLK was behind the curve, not ahead of it on that one. (But for those dissing King, I hope you have and encourage you to read Letter from Birmingham Jail -- an his other writings.) > > (And while I have some issues with Ghandi's economic policies, again, what approach other than non-violent resistance would have defeated the British (Evil) Empire?) >
That non-violent resistance ended the British Empire is laughable. I think the reason British granted independence (note how I say granted and not that India won independence) was two - one they had already raped India of all its resources, contrast India and Britain between 1600 and 1900, and ruling India was a big burden on Britain and two the British citizens no longer resembled their uncivilized forefathers of 1600's and started questioning their own government on the continued occupancy of India and many other countries. To say Gandhi was non-violent is another laughable statement. He indulged in fast unto deaths which though superficially can be considered as non-violent, were in fact highly passive aggressive and emotional blackmail. In fact I don't recall Gandhi performing a fast unto death asking British to leave, he was very clever and cunning, he knew he would surely starve to death if he would do that. He was nothing but a politician who used the propaganda of non-violence as his main weapon. That MLK and guys like you are fascinated by him shows the quality of your thinking as well.
