--- In [email protected], "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I'm curious why you would "africanize" the bees, Sparaig?  There
> was no hint of this prior to your comment.

Shemp said they were in a desert. Estimates are that 90+% of all wild 
bees in the US southwest are Africanized...

If he meant a northern desert, disregard.


> 
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bee's are great. I've had interesting karma with these 
little 
> > > > > hive-beings. Place your attention on their world and it 
unfolds 
> > > a 
> > > > new 
> > > > > web of inter-relation different from the world we see--a 
web of 
> > > > > hive-flower and their hive city/mandala which overlaps our 
own 
> > > > > Dakini-net and awareness flow. I remember when I was still 
> > doing 
> > > > the 
> > > > > siddhis and I would get these loud--really loud bee noises 
> > > coming 
> > > > from 
> > > > > my body (LOL) which were so loud I would stop meditating 
and go 
> > > > out and 
> > > > > check and the neighborhood to see if it was disturbing the 
> > > > neighbors! 
> > > > > Really tuned me into bees too. Of course it was subtle and 
> > > > internal but 
> > > > > seemed so real, so tangible.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, when I am in the garden and a bee approaches, I relax 
and 
> > > > queitly ask them to go away and they do. Easy to communicate 
> > with. 
> > > > Bees and wasps seem very tuned into us- which is why I think 
they 
> > > > get so agitated when we wave our arms about and speed up our 
> > heart 
> > > > rate in their presence.
> > > > 
> > > > We also have many crows nearby- very intelligent birds. Also 
find 
> > > > that dog speech is pretty easy to understand. And my most 
> > > wonderful 
> > > > experience recently was with a mockingbird I think it was, 
though 
> > > I 
> > > > didn't actually see it. I was in my garden studio/shed and 
> > playing 
> > > a 
> > > > jazz CD. This bird began jamming with the music like I've 
never 
> > > > heard before! Every time a melody would play, the bird would 
> > > respond 
> > > > with a brilliant improv- really amazing- really wished I'd 
had a 
> > > > tape recorder handy.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > About 4 years ago in the spring I was hiking in the desert.  It 
was 
> > > an unusual year in which the desert flowers were blooming more 
than 
> > > usual.  I was all by myself about two miles from the trail head 
and 
> > > any semblance of civilization and all of a sudden a black cloud 
of 
> > > bees came towards me.  There was virtually nothing I could do; 
if 
> > > they wanted to sting me to death, they could have.  Well, I 
found 
> > > myself totally relaxing, they passed over and around me (not 
one 
> > > landed on me) and they went on their way.  They were in such an 
> > > ecstatic frenzy to get to their nectar in the jackpot of 
flowers 
> > > that they paid me absolutely no heed.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Generally migrating africanized bees are much safer than those 
with a 
> > hive to protect.




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