Enlightenment means freedom from the 'conditioned mind' 'the past' and 'the future' that's all...
Becoming innocent like a child again... 'Radiate the 'Light of Your Own Being'.. And help to continue the dispelling of darkness... Radiating 'Truth' dispelling layers of liars, lieing... --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Sometimes I really love the view that non-believers in > Free Will have of the universe they live in and what > that implies about what the universe thinks of them. > > They postulate essentially an enormous cuckoo clock, > in which all sentient beings are just automatons doing > what they've been programmed to do, endlessly. In their > view of the universe, many of these automatons think > that they're making their own decisions, but they aren't > really. That's just an illusion. In reality, they're > just acting out actions designed by something or someone > else, whatever or whoever wound up the clock. > > What is most fascinating is that many of the automatons > who believe in this Cuckoo Clock Universe present them- > selves as if they were "spiritual seekers," that is, as > if there were something that was in their power to *do* > that would facilitate or speed up their evolution towards > the goal of "enlightenment" they aspire to. > > What I don't understand is why, if they are incapable > of "doing" anything, they believe that there is anything > they can do to facilitate their enlightenment. Even more > puzzling is their reverence for spiritual teachers who > they feel are "enlightened." According to their view > of the universe, none of these "enlightened" beings can > do diddleysquat, either. They are just as much automatons > as the people who revere and follow them. And if the > whole thing is one big deterministic cuckoo clock, then > there was nothing the "enlightened" could *ever* have > done for them. > > Me, I think this is a pretty dismal view of the universe, > one that indicates that the universe (which many of these > supposed "spiritual seekers" believe is sentient) doesn't > really think very much of them. It doesn't allow them > any freedom or autonomy, and allows them no say in their > own lives. Everything is programmed, and there is nothing > they can ever do that will affect anything else, *includ- > ing* their own enlightenment. And if they ever realize > this "enlightenment" they seek, the only thing that's > happened for them is that they supposedly realize that > they're automatons. > > Big whoop. I'm much more comfortable with a more Buddhist > view of the universe in which everyone has Free Will and > thus can affect not only their own lives but the lives > of others. Teachers in such a universe would actually be > accomplishing something, not just speaking as automatons > to other automatons. > > But if that's the way they want to see the universe they > live in, so be it. At least now I understand why so many > of them seem so chronically unhappy and why so many of > them actually long for annihilation. If I thought I lived > inside an enormous cuckoo clock and that nothing I had > ever done or will ever do mattered, I'd probably hope > for "soul suicide" myself. :-) >
