At the core of an arrogant man is a traumatized child, hypothetically speaking, again.:-) Why would anything be excluded from self-realization? Conversely, why couldn't someone gain self-realization any number of ways? Notice that those who have nothing good to say about the sidhis often had very weak experiences with them? Unable to let go.
--- In [email protected], "emptybill" <emptybill@...> wrote: > > The "Shank" tradition for Vaj is "Vidyaranya". > But he claim to be a dzogchen yogi so it doesn't > matter who he says is an authority. He reads books > and goes to webinars and teachings of Tibetans. > He has no guru-s or sampradaya. > He thinks of himself as the nor'easter Eckhart Tolle. > He makes this shit up. He must think it make > him look important. > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:38 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > curtisdeltablues@ wrote: > > >> > > >> It kind of shows how un-seriously Maharishi took this information > that it would be up to ME to cough up this furball! > > > [...] > > >> And given that the so called enlightened have so totally NOT lived > up to the > > >> hype of what these states mean according to Maharishi, a more > humble > > >> approach would be appropriate. > > > > > > Er, according to MMY, if one is actually in Unity Consciousness, one > can perform any and all of the sidhis at any time. I don't know that he > or anyone else (at least anyone within the TMO still) ever claimed that > for themslves. > > > > > > As has been pointed out to you previously on numerous occasions, it is > yoga-darshana that is enamoured with siddhis. The state of consciousness > associated with yoga-darshana in Maharishi Vedic "science" is > turiyatita, "Cosmic Consciousness" not UC. > > > > So you're left with, really, two options: > > > > 1. You heard it wrong and/or remembered it wrong. > > > > 2. The Maharishi got it wrong an therefore represents a departure, an > impurity within these awakening traditions. > > > > It's almost as if you're locked into some OCD definition welded onto > your brain, and you can't let go, lest YOU bring some imagined impurity > into the tradition. > > > > The UC view of Vedanta, esp. in the Shank. tradition, not only avoids > siddhis, it considers them antithetical to the evolution of > consciousness. > > >
