--- In [email protected], "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
<anartaxius@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Ravi Yogi" <raviyogi@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> > curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is way too judgmental for me to go with Judy. You
> > > > are not a reference point for what the "right thing" is
> > > > for me.
> > >
> > > Yes, you and I have very different ethical standards.
> > >
> > People who are intellectuals have a lot of problem with ethics, morals
> > unless someone has a clear intellect like Judy. I know well because I
> > was like this not too long ago. 3rd & 9th house are opposite to each
> > other - 3rd for the conscious mind, 9th for values, morals. Hence Barry
> > and the likes who can't distinguish between truth and lies - because in
> > their opinion it's all "opinion", so it's completely OK to lie, deceive
> > and manipulate.
> > It's a delicate balance between the 3rd and 9th and hence I call them
> > the Three Decepteers - masters of intellectual deception, tart is
> > teetering on the edge.
>
> While astrology does not seem to me to have any significant correlation with
> reality your comment about intellectuals having problems with ethics is
> interesting. May be that having that ability to juggle complex concepts in a
> more expanded level of abstraction blurs the distinctions and blurs one's
> ability to observe how the average person is going to react. There seems to
> be strong scientific evidence that many basic ethical stances are hard wired
> into us (Sam Harris wrote a book about this, which unfortunately, I have not
> read). Maybe these gut level impulses can be overridden by intellectual mind.
>
Xeno - Ethical stances have nothing to do with gut level impulses, in fact they
are quite different from each other.
In astrology ethics, morals, judgements are denoted by the 9th house and gut
level impulses by the 8th house. 8th is 12th ( loss) from the 9th house -
meaning gut is alien to ethics. 9th house also denotes father, Guru, dharma and
all authority figures. 9th is ruled by Jupiter also the indicator for higher
intelligence. So ethics, morals are inherited by the society, father figures,
innate tendencies whereas 8th is for gut, intuition. 8th opposes 2nd house
which is for the 5 outer senses, so 8th is our 6th sense or the gut or the
intuition.
The intuition let's us focus on the big picture rather than the just rely on
the external stimuli provided by the 5 senses. To say it should be ridden by
intellectual mind doesn't make any sense. Intellect is a very useful tool in
the outside world but pales in comparison to intuition as a tool in the inner
growth.
May be we can say that ethics are controlled by our innate tendencies carried
over from past lives and the guidance or the moral structures we inherited from
father figures in this life time, that can be overridden by the intellect, but
then we come back to my original statement of needing the balance between
intellect and the ethics, morals.
Astrology can be used to look at the blueprint we are born with, our innate
tendencies, conditionings, strengths and weaknesses, the areas where we are
imbalanced and will be tested so we continue our evolution to the supreme. It's
an incredible tool for personality development. I have no interest in using it
for mundane predictions.
