--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sparaig wrote:
> >  
> > I think there's a problem with Clay's own understanding of stress 
and 
> > TM, if he presented things that way:
> 
> David Clay didn't define stress in any way at all. He simply 
> summed up the evidence that TM does something good 
> and concluded that "release of stress" was inadequate to 
> explain all the benefits. For example, consider the 1% 
> phenomenon. Assuming it is a valid phenomenon -- I know 
> we've beaten it up pretty badly around here -- it suggests 
> consciousness is a field common to us all that influences 
> behavior. 

So how does that change the meditation as anti-stress model? It 
implies that a normal (CC) nervous system would *always* be radiating 
coherence, which is certainly what the verse that MMY uses to justify 
the theory about the Maharishi Effect says.

> 
> > In MMY's 
> > definition, stress is that which prevents you from being 
enlightened
> 
> TM defines stress as an overload of experience. Well, 
> what's ignorance? It's when experience overshadows the 
> awareness of awareness itself. Maharishi's definition of 
> stress is a Westernized definition of ignorance. 
> 
> - Patrick Gillam

Or, MMY uses a Western medical term (stress) to describe a Yogic 
metaphysical concept. The interesting thing, to me, is that there 
appears to be a close fit between the Western term and the Eastern, 
although the Eastern term covers more territory than the normal 
Western definition.





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