The mistake of the intellect isn't called a mistake because it is voluntary...

L.

--- In [email protected], "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@...> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], "at_man_and_brahman" 
> <at_man_and_brahman@> wrote:
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> > The responses to my post about Robin Carlson were interesting. They revolve 
> > around a central theme, how unity consciousness is defined. 
> > 
> > Range of responses:
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> > * RC was in a false UC, dubbed by Vaj-ji as "Maharishi UC" (MUC). 
> > * MUC is *real* UC (RUC) but Robin was in a false version of it. 
> > * RC was in MUC *AND* MUC is RUC, but MUC comes and goes, so RC being back 
> > in waking state is no big deal. That group ignores RC's claim that he 
> > intentionally forced himself out of MUC rather than having slipped out of 
> > it as a matter of course. They also discount Maharishi's implied teaching 
> > that MUC, though it can be glimpsed, is achievable as a permanent state. 
> > <snip>
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> * * Just to refine my position, let me reiterate that ultimately, all states 
> of consciousness are voluntary. Therefore, it is quite possible to decide to 
> "fall" from UC into a form of ignorance, or any other state one pleases. 
> However, we don't usually *get* that all states of consciousness are 
> voluntary until we surrender into Reality, or "Brahman" -- which as the One 
> Reality IS the permanent "state" MMY spoke of. "Brahman" or Reality is not 
> per se a "state" which comes and goes like the classic (and ultimately 
> illusory) 7 states of consciousness. As "Brahman" includes every other state 
> of consciousness, here it is perfectly simple to identify with any I-particle 
> or ego-state or state of consciousness one wishes. One can even entertain 
> beliefs as if they were real, though of course we will experience the pain of 
> doing so, the pain or tension of holding a "lie" in our bodymind.
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