--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> The Dangers of Pseudo-advaita
> by Aziz
>
> Student: Are all enlightened beings  in the same state?
> 
> Aziz: In most cases, those who  announce their Enlightenment represent 
> only a certain type of Self-realisation.  Most often they represent the 
> realisation of pure awareness. And even  among them not all are 
> stabilised in this experience. Not to be  established in the State of 
> Presence means that one is still losing it from time to time. In Zen, 
> they say that after Enlightenment, twenty  years practice is required! 
> It is because, in their understanding,  Enlightenment initially means 
> to see one's true nature; and then one  has to practice hard not to 
> lose it. There is a level called 'beyond  practice' where the state is 
> spontaneously and permanently present,  but it is not easy to reach. 
> The problem with the popular view  concerning 'sudden Enlightenment' is 
> that its interpretation is rather  naïve. This idea can be very 
> misleading because many seekers assume  Enlightenment is a sudden, 
> complete and permanent shift of perception.  They think that after 
> Enlightenment everything suddenly changes and  one is free from 
> problems; that one is continuously happy and lives in  bliss. But this 
> is not true. Even those who are considered the  greatest masters had to 
> take many steps in their evolution towards  completion. In most cases, 
> a master reaches complete Enlightenment in  old age.

Good answer.  Except that I'm still wondering what state
they *might* have all been in -- California, New Mexico,
Utah, Iowa, what?






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