good critique Turq that gets at a problem.  Right up there along with with 
that economic short-selling one of yours before too. Original.   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Today I found myself remembering something Vaj said -- that one of the
> reasons mindfulness is making inroads into PC-sensitive environments
> such as publicly-funded schools, in which other techniques such as TM
> might encounter difficulties, is that mindfulness can be completely
> secularized. It can be divorced from its origins in a tradition that can
> be seen as religious and presented without any of its original trappings
> in Buddhism. You don't even need a Buddhist to teach it; any layman or
> teacher or therapist can learn its principles and teach them to others.
> It's the spiritual equivalent of open source software.
> 
> In comparison, TM is very much proprietary source software. It cannot
> really ever be completely divorced from its origins in Hindu (or, if you
> prefer, Vedic) trappings. To teach it, a person has to not only be
> specially trained by the organization that holds the copyrights
> (literally) to the source code of its tradition, he or she has to
> perform rituals that can easily be construed as religious, prior to
> imparting mantras that can just as easily be construed as being the
> names of gods and goddesses. You can argue that this isn't true all you
> want, but I suspect that even the arguers will admit that there is a
> strong case to be made for a 1-to-1 link being present between TM and an
> established religious tradition.
> 
> That creates problems in some environments. The dedicated people in
> those environments -- teachers, therapists, health care professionals
> and even law enforcement or prison officials -- are DYING for techniques
> that would help the people they're dedicated to helping. But many of
> these people are also very Politically Correct savvy, and realize that
> if they introduce a technique or set of techniques into their
> environment that is PC-controversial, the controversy is pretty much
> guaranteed to hit the fan. That's just the nature of the times we live
> in.
> 
> All of this thinking about Vaj's mention of this idea of a secularized
> spiritual practice got me to thinking up questions, which I pass along
> to Vaj or to anyone else here:
> 
> "What would a completely secularized set of meditation and
> self-development techniques LOOK LIKE? If you were to design one or
> speculate about one, what would it involve and not involve?"
> 
> "Which elements from traditional spiritual practices would you preserve,
> and which would you not?"
> 
> "If the meditation practices you suggest use mantras, where would they
> come from?"
> 
> "If the  meditation practices don't involve mantras, what would they be?
> For example, some techniques rely on visualization, either inwardly or
> with the eyes open, on certain designs (yantras, mandalas) or
> individuals (gods, goddesses, saints). Would you use these same objects
> of focus, or others? If others, what would they be?"
> 
> "How would you make this technique or set of techniques attractive to
> people who could benefit from them without relying on the appeal to
> 'lineage' or 'tradition?'"
> 
> "Do you feel that such a secularized spiritual practice would be a Good
> Thing or a Bad Thing? Would one approach be inherently "better" or "more
> effective" and the other...uh..."less?" And if so, WHY?"
> 
> I have no easy answers. If you do, fire away. I am interested both as a
> "spiritual sociologist" and as a fan of science fiction. Writers in the
> SF genre have speculated about secularized spirituality for decades.
> Heck, one SF author even went out and created his own version of one,
> and has gazillions of followers. But in the process he copped out and
> called it a religion. What would you come up with if you were trying to
> do the opposite?
>


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