On 08/20/2011 10:37 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 1:15 PM, do.rflex<do.rf...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
> Read a little history.  Read about the "entitlement" the trade unions felt
> after the war in England.  How there was class hatred, basically from the
> trade unionists who felt they were being ripped off.   Actually, they were
> being made redundant because what they produced, like coal, didn't count
> that much anymore.   So the trade unions got what they wanted.  England went
> socialist.    And depressed.  Very depressed. As state before, the problem
> with socialism is eventually you run out of people to rob to support the
> self-proclaimed entitled class.  It was only until the Iron Lady started to
> set things right did some these people on the virtual dole start to realize
> that being productive leads to a successful, prosperous life.   Now we're
> back to the dole.  Generations since WWII on the dole.  No hope except to be
> badasses. You want to talk trash?  There's no cracker in America as trashy
> in outlook and being self-defeating as these badasses, male and female.
> Why is England the state under the most surveillance?    Go visit and find
> out quickly enough.  It's not the G20, the G10, the G8.   It's lack of
> opportunity and an a whole lot of people so long on the dole they can't
> envision a better life for themselves, not even  by the joys of holding down
> even a part time job.   So it's the rich, the bankers, eh?   Yeah, there's
> ever a reason why it's his fault and not mine.
>
> We're seeing West Side Story recast as North End Story.

There's nothing wrong with socialism, just the poor implementation of it 
that some countries did.  The Scandinavian countries did a much better 
job.  India's state of Kerala even has a "communist" government but you 
wouldn't know it as it seemed to have some of the most prosperous 
communities of the states that I visited.

Socialism is a helluva lot more fair than capitalism.  The latter is for 
money crazies, materialistic souls and not for the spiritual folk.  
Capitalism is "sink or swim" and a high entropy system.   It is primed 
for gangsters to take it over which they have many times and have again.

Most people probably think that the US had only one depression era.  In 
fact it has had many.  Your school textbooks whitewashed that fact.  
Anyone studying the economic history of the US would conclude that 
capitalism is a piss poor system.  It might be okay in a limited 
format.  Socialism and capitalism can co-exist side by side but you have 
to limit the capitalistic aspect of it.

What we have in this country is a bunch of rednecks and teabaggers who 
are too ignorant to really understand economics and really don't know 
history.  They deserve the kind of government they're going to get but I 
just want to move it and them to Antarctica.




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