--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "kjdruhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > TM is based on the release of spiritual power. If it would be
> > > > just matter of keeping the mind restful and alert, why the 
> > > > instruction to come immediately back to the mantra, once there 
> > > > is awareness of no mantra no thought?
> > > 
> > > Just for the record, that isn't the instruction--
> > > couldn't be.  The instruction to return to the
> > > mantra comes into play once thought has *returned*
> > > after an episode of no thoughts/no mantra, or when
> > > one becomes aware that what one has been thinking
> > > was not the mantra.  Neither of those situations is
> > > restful alertness per se.
> > > 
> > > Restful alertness (no thoughts/no mantra) lasts as
> > > long as it lasts.  In the context of TM practice,
> > > there's no way to "keep" the mind in that state--nor
> > > any way to "get there" either, other than by
> > > following the instructions and taking it as it comes.
> > > 
> > > But perhaps you just miswrote...
> > 
> > He was twisting - he knows that is not the instruction.
> 
> Really?  Unfortunate if he feels the need to do that.
> Perplexing as well, in the context of what appears to
> be his absolute certainty about the rightness of his
> current path.
> 
> > There are plenty of Christian monks who see no conflict with the
> > teachings of Christ.
> 
> Kai may not consider them to be Christians, so that
> might not carry much weight with him.

Not much can be said about not considering them Christians. Many of
them have studied deeply.

 I'm not interested in a theological debate with Kai - good luck to
him, and I'm sure if God has a problem with me, we can work it out.

JohnY





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