emptybill:
> According to Frawley, ii.m is the bija mantra of the 
> Vedic Indra and is the foundation of most Shakti 
> mantra-s... 
> 
So, like David Frawley, you're thinking that the 'bija' 
mantras came 'out of India' more than 10,000 years ago; 
before the invention of writing; before the develpment 
of Sanskrit; before the invention of the wheel; before 
civilization; and before time itself. 

What is wrong with this picture?

You may be correct, but bija mantras are not mentioned 
in the Rig Veda, RV 3.62.10 - even though supposedly all 
of the Rishis used to meditate! 

There are no bijas mentioned by Patanjali. If there were, 
would not have MMY got them from the Yoga Sutras, instead 
of an having us repeat an English translation of a Yoga 
Sutra verse?

According to David Frawley, there is an unbroken continuity 
in Indian spirituality, long from before 6,000 B.C., in 
the Indus Valley, through the Vedic Age, into the Buddhist 
Age, culminating in the Gupta Dynasty, the Golden Age of 
Indian Vedic literature. 

Frawley says the Vedas were all composed in India, not 
imported from without; they are the source of the subtle 
science mentioned by MMY. 

Tantric bija mantra meditation is thus more than 10,000 
years old? If so, how would we know it, since everthing
before writing is considered to be pre-history?

"We meditate on the Sun god to activate our thoughts!"

"We meditate on the adorable glory of the radiant sun; 
may he inspire our intelligence." 

    tát savitúr váren.yam.
    bhárgo devásya dhi-mahi
    dhíyo yó nah. pracodáya-t

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayatri_Mantra

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