> --This is not my idea of who Jesus was. > The trouble with spouting doctrine, or dogma, written from the Greek > and Latin, and melting down through time, by Religious Dictator, > Ceasears, Emperors, Politicians(like Bush&Co,), is that it is all > about control, and black and white. > These doctrines leave no room for questioning, which is how Jesus > taught. Funny how Jesus is always portrayed in the movies,. as > though he is some great Roman Orator. Ridiculous. > If you know what the reality of being with Jesus was like, and the > two dimentional view you get through this dogma, like Maharishi > says, Knowledge in the book, stays in the book. > And also, Knowledge in Structured in Consciousness. > As far as the Mantras are concerned, all you need to know is that > they are sounds which have been used for thousands of years to > Transcend, and Experience the "Kingdom of Heaven Within" as Jesus > recommended we do. > Jesus also recommended and suggested that his Disciples perform the > miracles he told them were possible, and heal people through true > spiritual power. > The same kind of spiritual power, like healing and using herbs, that > thousand of innocent people, where burned alive in public, by the > Dogma of the Church, being used then as it is now, to divide and > conquer, and keep humanity in the demonic grip of lies, and > deceptions. > So, take you Jesus Christ and keep him to yourself. Take your dogma > and talk to other parrots like yourself, to you all can congratulate > yourselves, that you are on the path, and no one else, who doesn't > believe like you, could possibly be making spiritual progress. > This attitude in it's other manifestation, was at the root of so > many holocausts throughout time. > The Higher Power, is something you have to discover for yourself? > It is not something that is contained in a book or in a concept. > The only way to experience God, is to become One with God, like > Jesus suggested. > His prayer goes like this: "Our Father who art in Heaven." > My Father in Heaven, Jesus' Father in Heaven, are the same Father. > And as Jesus suggested: Seek ye for that Father within. > Maharishi has provided and invaluable tool for going within, and > finding the God who is within us, and like the Ancient Jewish > people, like Jesus knows, God is beyond any name or form. > He (SHE) is Transcendental.
Further: This idea that 'I am the way, the truth, and the light, and no one get's into Heaven unless I say so... This is exactly the same attitude the Roman's had toward the Jews of the time; That they must bow to Caesar, and worship him as a god; and the Jews refused to do that, which eventually led to the Roman Holocaust, of that period and the dispersal of the Jews and many Jews of the time who believed in the teachings of Jesus. Like Maharsihi, or any true Holy man, Jesus, did not want people to worship him; Instead he wanted them to rise in consciousness, just as Maharishi, or any other Awakened One, attempts to do. The religion which is institutionalized as Chrisitanity, is more a political doctrine, based in Roman, and European attitudes, traditions, and abuses of power. > > R.Gimbel Seattle,WA. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: kjdruhl > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:40 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM and Christianity: PBS feature > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > let me just answer to some of your points: > > > > On the issue of Christ being the only way: > > > > That is not my "true believer's" idea, but it is what Christ is > > teaching. It is not matter of "my way" or "your way", it is a > matter > > of God's way or man's way. Man's way does not work, never, no > matter > > what it is. The gulf between God and man is so great that only God > > can bridge it. And He did. > > > > Christ not only said that He is the way the truth and the life > > (He "is", not He "knows"), He was also very outspoken about others > > making such claims. He said they were thieves and robbers. He also > > said that unless I partake of His nature, I have no life in > myself, > > that without Him I can do nothing, and so on. He said that He came > > to save the world, not to condemn it. He implored people to come > to > > Him, and allow Him to carry their burdens. But He also said that > in > > the end He would judge everyone. Very clear words, they leave no > > doubt about what He was talking about; that is if you care to read > > them. > > > > Now did He really say all this? This question actually came up > > immediately after His resurrection and final ascent, as certain > > people were trying to muddy the waters. Peter and John address it > in > > their apostolic letters to the churches, and make a strong point > > that they were eye witnesses of all that happened, and of what He > > said. They also fully support and authenticate the teachings of > > Paul, who received direct revelation from Christ. > > > > Now Peter and John certainly understood what Jesus was saying, and > > they rendered it in Koine Greek, in the gospels and in their > > letters. Koine Greek was the commonly shared language of the time, > > very much as English is today, so the translation of these > > scriptures is fairly well established. Recent discoveries of Greek > > manuscripts from that period confirm that the Greek words in the > > Bible were used in their commonly accepted meanings. > > > > Sparaig made the point how could a simple natural relaxation > > technique prevent me from receiving from God. Well, obviously it > > couldn't. But TM is not a simple natural relaxation technique, far > > from it. The TM mantras are seed mantras (bhijas) which establish > a > > connection between the presiding spirit and the practitioner. That > > is not superstition, but it is the spiritual reality. > > > > TM is based on the release of spiritual power. If it would be just > > matter of keeping the mind restful and alert, why the instruction > to > > come immediately back to the mantra, once there is awareness of no > > mantra no thought? Why then is it so important to select the > mantra > > carefully? Why do these supposedly "meaningless" words have such > > powerful influence? No, let us realize that what Maharishi is > > bringing out now is much closer to the truth than what is taught > in > > the intro lecture. Don't we all know that the true content of the > > teaching is spoonfed, one little bit after the other, until you > have > > embraced spiritual concepts and practices that you would have > never > > entered into before. > > > > If you want to embrace them, fine. Make your choice in freedom. > But > > don't deceive yourself into thinking that the ideas you are basing > > your eternal destiny on are self-evident, or that they are > > compatible with the teachings of Christ. > > > > Sincerely > > > > Kai > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi > mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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