--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > (And in this case, if he had been paying attention,
> > > > he would know I have indeed experienced it.)
> > > 
> > > Ok. In exactly what spiritual tradition and with 
> > > exactly which teacher did you experience satsang?
> > > And when?  And how many times did you sit satsang
> > > with this teacher or teachers.  We'll wait.
> > 
> > My satsang fu is superior to your satsang fu ...
> 
> Not at all.  It was just obvious, from the
> way Judy has comported herself for ten years,
> that she really *hadn't* ever experienced
> satsang first-hand, sitting with a teacher
> and having a one-on-one conversation with
> the kind of teacher who doesn't allow the
> student to "tell stories."  Obvious.
> 
> I was trying to get *Judy* to realize this,
> because she'd just as obviously deluded her-
> self into thinking she *had* experienced
> satsang.

Allow me to correct the record, *again*.

Barry did not define satsang as sitting "live"
with a teacher to start with; rather, he used
the term as a description of this forum.

When he asked me if I'd experienced satsang, I
responded in that context.  *Then* he switched
to the "live" definition.  And now he's pretending
he thinks I was "deluded" to believe I had 
experienced satsang, when I was speaking of it 
*in exactly the way he had been using the term*.

The propensity to use this kind of smelly tactic
is one of the reasons I dislike Barry so much.

Other than the "live" component, the rest of my
electronic-satsang experience was exactly what
he suggests: one-on-one interaction with a
(presumably enlightened) TM teacher who thought
he was not allowing me to tell "stories" (or to
put it another way, who was telling me not to
trust my own experience but rather to accept
*his* story about what my experience was).

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that a wise
teacher using skillful means could say something
that would help me penetrate the barrier of my
current experience and see the deeper reality
beyond it; and I suspect that could happen via an
electronic forum, or private electronic
communication, just as well.  But the teacher I
actually interacted with seems not to have had
the skillful means to hand.





------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> 
Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page
http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM
--------------------------------------------------------------------~-> 

To subscribe, send a message to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Or go to: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
and click 'Join This Group!' 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 


Reply via email to