--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Aug 12, 2005, at 3:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Everything
> > > > > is physical. Consciousness is the product of the
> > > > > functioning of the
> > > > > brain.
> > > > 
> > > > What happened to the "consciousness is primary;
> > > > matter is secondary" 
> > > > spiel? Sounds like a scientific materialist
> > > > talking.
> > > 
> > > The subject was human consciousness. The original
> > > Consciousness gives 
> > > rise to matter, and matter gives rise to the
> > > physical nervous system, 
> > > which gives rise to consciousness in humans.
> > > 
> > > You can't have human consciousness without human
> > > form.
> > 
> > You're confounding consciousness with mind. To
> > completely different "things".
> 
> Are you suggesting one can have human consciousness
> without a body?

Well, duh.

Have you never astral traveled?  Have you
no memories of the time spent in the Bardo
between death and rebirth?

Of course you can have human consciousness
without a body.  

But having a human body definitely helps if
you're still interested in sex.  :-)







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