--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 12, 2005, at 3:30 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > Everything > > > > is physical. Consciousness is the product of the > > functioning of the > > > > brain. > > > > > > What happened to the "consciousness is primary; > > matter is secondary" > > > spiel? Sounds like a scientific materialist > > talking. > > > > The subject was human consciousness. The original > > Consciousness gives > > rise to matter, and matter gives rise to the > > physical nervous system, > > which gives rise to consciousness in humans. > > > > You can't have human consciousness without human > > form. > > You're confounding consciousness with mind. To > completely different "things". >
Are you saying that waking, dreaming and sleeping are possible without human (or some other)form? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
